Double Bass 1/8 Upright Bass... Looking to buy one for on the road

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So, I've found that an acoustic bass guitar does not have the same sound as an upright. I'm thinking about getting a 1/8 size so I can play sitting down with the right rib over my right leg. does anyone have any suggestions?
 
Hi Knup, indeed, it is a different instrument.

So I would suggest playing the instrument oriented upright, in the conventional way. In that way proper right hand pizz technique can more easily be used, which contributes to better sound. Consider taking lessons, left hand fingering is also different. The 3/4 is the common size for adults, unless of very small posture, then 5/8 or (maybe even 1/2). Small fractional sizes are usually aimed at young players, and retain less value. Try find a 2nd hand instrument, test drive before you buy, and take an experienced player (or teacher) with you for that.
 
Something I forgot to mention was I've got more experience with an electric bass, and I've found that, with the 1/8 size (at least for me) the fingerboard is a lot more analogous in length to that of a full size bass guitar.
 
Something I forgot to mention was I've got more experience with an electric bass, and I've found that, with the 1/8 size (at least for me) the fingerboard is a lot more analogous in length to that of a full size bass guitar.

A 1/8 size DB is more the size, and will have the mid-range emphasis of, a cello. My choice would be to go with a 1/4 size DB. A Kay M-3 or Englehardt EM-3 has a mensure of 35.25" -- very close to a Fender. And it *will* sound like a DB.
 
In my opinion scales are approximately (inch):
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I once tried a cello as a bass, and admittedly that was a ply cello, but I was disappointed in the sound, and when we parted it was a normal cello again. As a cello it was a fair student instrument, and I was truly amazed how it sounded in the hands of the guy who tested it (with a DB bow!). Took him about 7 seconds to decide. But a cello is not a bass.

The problem with putting a DB sideways on your leg is that a DB is much deeper than a BG, and that, and the direction the strings run at, makes proper pizz technique more challenging (wrist bent at awkward angle). In my mind it's more a stage trick, particularly if you do it with a big one (43.3"), but proper playing is best done oriented upright. But that's just my opinion. I believe Mr. Fitzgerald has some videos on YouTube on right hand technique, have a look at those.
 
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In my opinion scales are approximately (inch):
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I once tried a cello as a bass, and admittedly that was a ply cello, but I was disappointed in the sound, and when we parted it was a normal cello again. As a cello it was a fair student instrument, and I was truly amazed how it sounded in the hands of the guy who tested it (with a DB bow!). Took him about 7 seconds to decide. But a cello is not a bass.

The problem with putting a DB sideways on your leg is that a DB is much deeper than a BG, and that, and the direction the strings run at, makes proper pizz technique more challenging (wrist bent at awkward angle). In my mind it's more a stage trick, particularly if you do it with a big one (43.3"), but proper playing is best done oriented upright. But that's just my opinion. I believe Mr. Fitzgerald has some videos on YouTube on right hand technique, have a look at those.

That is why I suggested a quarter-sized DB over a cello; a cello body is a bit too shallow. And, seated, a 1/4 DB is not all *that* deep -- certainly not too deep to navigate. It is true that played horizontally, some of the upper thumb positions are inaccessible, but for coffeehouse-type gigs that is not an issue. I don't go up there. Heck, even the Regal Bassoguitar in my avatar can be played comfortably across the knee -- something I'm sure the Regal people never imagined when they designed the instrument.

But I agree on the point that if one is playing jazz, best to do it with a 3/4 DB played vertically.
 
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Indeed, the attack & decay you get from those thick floppy strings is reminiscent of a DB, as is the spectrum. But there is no character, and it all happens at very low energy levels. It's a choice, but I can't play that scale.
 
I've goofed around with my cello, trying to play jazz on it. In my view, even for walking bass, cello works better played arco. Playing pizz, you just can't lay into it like on bass. At least, I can't.
 
I think you can more easily achieve the sound you want with the right acoustic bass guitar. Have you looked at a fretless acoustic bass guitar? String choice will make a difference too, maybe some sort of flatwound string will do the trick.

I would go down that road, as it would be a much smoother transition and i am confident you can achieve something within the realm of the tone you are looking for. Buying a 1/8 DB turned sideways sounds much more risky.