Accugroove opinions?

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TTA said:
What speakers are in that? (Edit: 21 wow) Are you happy with the performance/sound?
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Well, I'm not sure, to be honest I haven't played through it in a while with a low bass (my E0 tuned Quake), nor have I set it up to its main competition (the as-yet-unboxed Definitive Technologies Trinity subwoofer).
 
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bholder said:
Well, I'm not sure, to be honest I haven't played through it in a while with a low bass (my E0 tuned Quake), nor have I set it up to its main competition (the as-yet-unboxed Definitive Technologies Trinity subwoofer).
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Home studio work or live? Very interesting. Please post impressions.
 
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Accugroove was quite the rage here years ago. I'm sure the old threads on them will give you plenty of opinions.
 
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TTA said:
Anyone have experience snd opinions on the accugroove cabs? Mainly el whappo and el jefe.
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Accugroove was all the rage for awhile. It looks like the El Jefe is pretty much what they used to call the El Whappo Jr. I believe the Jr was slightly smaller than the regular El Whappo. The El Whappo used a 15" sub and the Jr used a 12" sub. The Jr was a bit leaner and tighter down low.

In general, these cabs were considered HiFi: extended range with relatively flat response. The El Whappo had a bit bigger and looser low end. The Jr was tighter and more controlled down low. Both were considered premium cabs with a high retail price.

The tweeters are supposed to be a lot smoother sounding than the typical horn, but I believe HF output is a bit limited as some consider them a bit too polite.

There was a fairly large scandal about something called the Accuswitch. This switch was supposed to magically allow the cab to be switched between 4 and 8 ohms. AFAIK the switch adds a capacitor inline with one of the woofers. This does not really change the impedance as described, although a DC voltmeter will be tricked into giving a false reading.

The owner stood behind his product and swore the Accuswitch worked as claimed. Honestly, I don't think he really ever understood what was going on from a technical standpoint. Unfortunately, fervor over the Accuswitch caused a really huge backlash that did significant damage to the company's reputation. The Accuswitch was eventually removed from the design, but the company pretty much fell into obscurity and pretty much disappeared from the market for quite a while.

I'll be honest I have seen BS from other reputable companies that are still held in high regard. Companies like Accugroove and TC Electronic have paid a pretty stiff price, and I don't fully understand why some companies get away with it, while others get hammered. I am by no means saying BS is acceptable.

I would love to try out an El Jefe.
 
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IMO the jefe more present and forward voiced in the mids/upper mids (and maybe the treble a bit as well) compared to the Whappo Jr, which I remember as smoother and a bit darker. But all the AG stuff took EQ well enough to make guys known for slap very happy. Listen to old David Dyson, no lack of high end clarity or slice there.

Still really great and relevant gear, that occupies its own niche very well. I did a review of the Jefe for Bass Musician a little while back. It was as impressive as I remember AG being, when I gigged it exclusively a decade ago.
 
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Wasnex said:
Accugroove was all the rage for awhile. It looks like the El Jefe is pretty much what they used to call the El Whappo Jr. I believe the Jr was slightly smaller than the regular El Whappo. The El Whappo used a 15" sub and the Jr used a 12" sub. The Jr was a bit leaner and tighter down low.

In general, these cabs were considered HiFi: extended range with relatively flat response. The El Whappo had a bit bigger and looser low end. The Jr was tighter and more controlled down low. Both were considered premium cabs with a high retail price.

The tweeters are supposed to be a lot smoother sounding than the typical horn, but I believe HF output is a bit limited as some consider them a bit too polite.

There was a fairly large scandal about something called the Accuswitch. This switch was supposed to magically allow the cab to be switched between 4 and 8 ohms. AFAIK the switch adds a capacitor inline with one of the woofers. This does not really change the impedance as described, although a DC voltmeter will be tricked into giving a false reading.

The owner stood behind his product and swore the Accuswitch worked as claimed. Honestly, I don't think he really ever understood what was going on from a technical standpoint. Unfortunately, fervor over the Accuswitch caused a really huge backlash that did significant damage to the company's reputation. The Accuswitch was eventually removed from the design, but the company pretty much fell into obscurity and pretty much disappeared from the market for quite a while.

I'll be honest I have seen BS from other reputable companies that are still held in high regard. Companies like Accugroove and TC Electronic have paid a pretty stiff price, and I don't fully understand why some companies get away with it, while others get hammered. I am by no means saying BS is acceptable.

I would love to try out an El Jefe.
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Excellent post other than how old I feel now. That Accuswitch thing must have happened, what, 12 years ago?
 
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Recently bought a tri 12 and tri 15 approx 30lbs and 45 on nice casters Stacked they make an elwhappo. Sound great. Have yet to use both on gig but expect a killer sound. I’d recommend to any one. Accugroove and barefaced are Only couple lightweight setups that spec low hz for that old school low end
 

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