Could I use two DI boxes to save some space?

Walruspidgeon

Walruspidgeon

Aug 21, 2020
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So... Yes, I have been using a pedalboard and no amps for a while now and it's been working great. The only problem I face is that it takes a lot of space from the front part of the stage. So I was thinking... Could I use just a pedal-tuner and a DI and run a xlr to the rest of the pedals ( Compressor -> Sansamp -> Chorus -> TwoNotes Cab M ) and use a DI in reverse at he other end or a reamp-box maybe?.

This way I could have something like a 2-space rack sitting at the back or a bigger one if I needed an amp and save some floorspace at the front of the stage

Sorry If my English failed me. I'm happy to ellaborate.

Thanks in advance
 
#3
el murdoque said:
Why would you want to do that?

You could save even more space by using just a pedal tuner and run a standard 1/4" cable to the rest.
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I'm a bit worried about the length of the cableruns. there is 5 meters of cable from my bass to the board and then 5 meters from the board to amp. I have read that it can pickup some noise. Maybe I'm just overthinking it :D
 
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Walruspidgeon said:
I'm a bit worried about the length of the cableruns. there is 5 meters of cable from my bass to the board and then 5 meters from the board to amp. I have read that it can pickup some noise. Maybe I'm just overthinking it :D
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It's not so likely to pick up extraneous noise, but there *is* a chance of losing a bit of high-end/treble content if you don't have a buffer/buffered pedal somewhere in your chain. I think it's more of a problem for guitars, or other instruments that live in higher frequency ranges, but it can still impact a bass, too.

Whether or not it is significant enough for you to notice is another discussion entirely. I'm inclined to agree with @el murdoque, and you should just run a standard 1/4" cable from your tuner.
 
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sloppy_phil said:
It's not so likely to pick up extraneous noise, but there *is* a chance of losing a bit of high-end/treble content if you don't have a buffer/buffered pedal somewhere in your chain. I think it's more of a problem for guitars, or other instruments that live in higher frequency ranges, but it can still impact a bass, too.

Whether or not it is significant enough for you to notice is another discussion entirely. I'm inclined to agree with @el murdoque, and you should just run a standard 1/4" cable from your tuner.
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Thanks for the insight.

I may be able to head out to gigs with confidence now. My current rig has been working great but I'm allways building it again in my head so this was one of those things that popped in to my mind.

Rock on!
 
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Walruspidgeon said:
So... Yes, I have been using a pedalboard and no amps for a while now and it's been working great. The only problem I face is that it takes a lot of space from the front part of the stage. So I was thinking... Could I use just a pedal-tuner and a DI and run a xlr to the rest of the pedals ( Compressor -> Sansamp -> Chorus -> TwoNotes Cab M ) and use a DI in reverse at he other end or a reamp-box maybe?.

This way I could have something like a 2-space rack sitting at the back or a bigger one if I needed an amp and save some floorspace at the front of the stage

Sorry If my English failed me. I'm happy to ellaborate.

Thanks in advance
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I'm having trouble understanding what it is you want to do. Are you wanting to move your pedalboard to the back of the stage, and just have the pedal tuner up front? If so, I don't see why two DIs is necessary. I would just use the one after the pedalboard. Addressing your concern for cable runs: If you have a buffered bypass tuner, it will drive the cable run to the pedalboard.

Or are you wanting to get rid of your pedalboard entirely and use rack effects?
 
#10
Killing Floor said:
If you’re using a DI to reach the board, why are you using a 1/4” cable? That circle thing with the 3 dots works better for that purpose.
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I use the same board for a couple of bands and at some gigs I might need an amp. that's what the 1/4" inch cable is for. I'm not sure if I understood your question correctly but yeah...
jdjk7 said:
I'm having trouble understanding what it is you want to do. Are you wanting to move your pedalboard to the back of the stage, and just have the pedal tuner up front? If so, I don't see why two DIs is necessary. I would just use the one after the pedalboard. Addressing your concern for cable runs: If you have a buffered bypass tuner, it will drive the cable run to the pedalboard.

Or are you wanting to get rid of your pedalboard entirely and use rack effects?
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Well I am actually thinking about putting the rest of the pedalboard in to a rack maybe with a light poweramp to get a versitile rig I could use with a cab or no cabs depending on wether the project is using in-ears for monitoring or not.
 
#11
Walruspidgeon said:
So... Yes, I have been using a pedalboard and no amps for a while now and it's been working great. The only problem I face is that it takes a lot of space from the front part of the stage. So I was thinking... Could I use just a pedal-tuner and a DI and run a xlr to the rest of the pedals ( Compressor -> Sansamp -> Chorus -> TwoNotes Cab M ) and use a DI in reverse at he other end or a reamp-box maybe?.

This way I could have something like a 2-space rack sitting at the back or a bigger one if I needed an amp and save some floorspace at the front of the stage

Sorry If my English failed me. I'm happy to ellaborate.

Thanks in advance
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For a smaller footprint I would recommend a 2 tiered pedalboard like vertex effects. It saves a lot of floor space because you can put your always on pedals that you are considering having at the back of the stage under the riser and have other pedals on top of the riser above them. You can fit like 12-13 pedals depending on their size, on their smallest board (travel lite) with the full length riser for it.

Or just put the board in a different part of the stage. I more often put my pedalboard up against the side of the drum riser. Keeps other people from stepping on it. And frees up room at the front of the stage. I do mostly gig with a wireless though so for me cables across the stage isn’t an issue.
 
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Nephilymbass said:
For a smaller footprint I would recommend a 2 tiered pedalboard like vertex effects. It saves a lot of floor space because you can put your always on pedals that you are considering having at the back of the stage under the riser and have other pedals on top of the riser above them. You can fit like 12-13 pedals depending on their size, on their smallest board (travel lite) with the full length riser for it.

Or just put the board in a different part of the stage. I more often put my pedalboard up against the side of the drum riser. Keeps other people from stepping on it. And frees up room at the front of the stage. I do mostly gig with a wireless though so for me cables across the stage isn’t an issue.
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This is also a good idea.
Nephilymbass said:
For a smaller footprint I would recommend a 2 tiered pedalboard like vertex effects. It saves a lot of floor space because you can put your always on pedals that you are considering having at the back of the stage under the riser and have other pedals on top of the riser above them. You can fit like 12-13 pedals depending on their size, on their smallest board (travel lite) with the full length riser for it.

Or just put the board in a different part of the stage. I more often put my pedalboard up against the side of the drum riser. Keeps other people from stepping on it. And frees up room at the front of the stage. I do mostly gig with a wireless though so for me cables across the stage isn’t an issue.
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Great suggestion.

I'm from finland so the vertex board is a bit tough to get here, but I'm shure there's alternatives.

One thing I forgot to mention is that I do have to switch my chorus on and off during a song.

That might need a seperate switcher if the chorus is in a rack across the stage...

Maybe I have to think this through once more.

Thanks for all the input guys
 
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