Does anyone recognize this David Eden cabinet?"

[AaronMayer]

Hi everyone, a few years ago I inherited a David Eden amplifier from a cousin, with separate head and cabinet. The amplifier is from 1994, a fairly common model with excellent sound quality. I’m having a really hard time identifying the model of this cabinet. Additionally, I noticed that the tweeter is not original, and I would like to purchase the one that is installed in this model. I’ve really tried everything, from Google Lens to various searches, but I can't find an answer. Can anyone help me out? Also, could you recommend a cabinet to better utilize the amplifier’s qualities for live music? Thanks in advance to anyone who responds

 

[Luther]

I don't know what model it is, but it looks like it may have been a combo at some point.

 

[DWBass]

Part of a combo. Maybe this one.

 

[road-cat1]

It was a time traveler combo amplifier. I have one! It is really great sounding combo amp but really heavy!

 

[MIMike]

Didn’t Eden’s use a Foster horn tweeter?
I had three Eden cabs back in the day and they all had the same tweeter.

 

[mbrain]

Part of a combo. Maybe this one.

It's not that one--the porting is wrong. Given the front round port, it sort of reminds me of the cxc combos, but they had coaxial speakers rather than a tweeter. Anyway, here's a link with a bunch of old catalogs. I think the cxc combos came out in the mid-2000s. Eden Electronics

ps. Found it! Google "wt-300 tc12". It's not in the catalogs I noted above.

Bass Guitar Combo Amp Eden Amplification WT-300 TC12

Bass Guitar Combo Amp from Eden Amplification belonging to the World Tour series

en.audiofanzine.com

 

[Wasnex]

Pretty sure the old-style Eden tweeters are no longer made. I believe the Eden P/N was E27007. The horn lens was sort of gold. Other than the color, it looked pretty much the same as the Fostex 025H27 tweeters used by SWR.

I thought the Eden tweeters were sort of grainy sounding, but perhaps that was the crossover in the David series cabs I used. I like tweeters in general, but I found it desirable to dial the Eden tweeters way back. IMHO SWR tweeters seemed a bit smoother.

 

[Rip Van Dan]

Part of a combo. Maybe this one.

Yeah, pretty much like that, but not quite. It looks like a DC112XLT but the port is a round port instead of a shelf port. The amp he has is not that one that originally came with the DC112XLT, which made its first appearance in the 2005 Eden catalog. It originally came with the WT330 "Time Traveler" amp as pictured in the @DWBass post. The last time it was offered in 2009, it could be ordered with the WT405 amp if you preferred (same amp, more power). The idea behind this was to put the WT amp in a combo with a David-series 112XLT speaker. It's the EC-1260M speaker that was also found in the D112XLT cab. The speaker is an 8Ω speaker and it handles 250-watts rms

There was also a CXC-112 combo but it was a tall cab and a coaxial speaker:

The amp that originally came with it, the WT330 would put out 200-watts (all watts ratings are rms watts) into 8Ω, 330-watts into 4Ω. and 420-watts into 2Ω. With the WT405 it would put out 250-watts into 8Ω/405-watts into 4Ω and 620-watts into 2Ω

It used the standard Eden Tweeter Horn #E2700. The crossover was set at 2.5KHz @18db

So I just went through all the Eden catalogs starting in 1997, which was the first real catalog and it's not in any of them. If @AaronMayer can give us a shot of the backplate on the cab and also the back of the amp he has with it, I might be able to come up with more info. And if Armin (@Bassmann1968) drops inn, perhaps he'll recognize it. I immediately thought it was the DC112XLT but like Aaron said, the porting is different. I suppose it's possible that it is a pre-1997 combo?

There were also some EN combos but those didn't use the WT amps.

Hoping for pictures of the backplate on the cab (where the tweeter adjustment is, and the back of the amp. Might be a WT300?

​

 

[mbrain]

Yeah, pretty much like that, but not quite. It looks like a DC112XLT but the port is a round port instead of a shelf port. The amp he has is not that one that originally came with the DC112XLT, which made its first appearance in the 2005 Eden catalog. It originally came with the WT330 "Time Traveler" amp as pictured in the @DWBass post. The last time it was offered in 2009, it could be ordered with the WT405 amp if you preferred (same amp, more power). The idea behind this was to put the WT amp in a combo with a David-series 112XLT speaker. It's the EC-1260M speaker that was also found in the D112XLT cab. The speaker is an 8Ω speaker and it handles 250-watts rms

There was also a CXC-112 combo but it was a tall cab and a coaxial speaker:
View attachment 7009560
The amp that originally came with it, the WT330 would put out 200-watts (all watts ratings are rms watts) into 8Ω, 330-watts into 4Ω. and 420-watts into 2Ω. With the WT405 it would put out 250-watts into 8Ω/405-watts into 4Ω and 620-watts into 2Ω

It used the standard Eden Tweeter Horn #E2700. The crossover was set at 2.5KHz @18db

So I just went through all the Eden catalogs starting in 1997, which was the first real catalog and it's not in any of them. If @AaronMayer can give us a shot of the backplate on the cab and also the back of the amp he has with it, I might be able to come up with more info. And if Armin (@Bassmann1968) drops inn, perhaps he'll recognize it. I immediately thought it was the DC112XLT but like Aaron said, the porting is different. I suppose it's possible that it is a pre-1997 combo?

There were also some EN combos but those didn't use the WT amps.

Hoping for pictures of the backplate on the cab (where the tweeter adjustment is, and the back of the amp. Might be a WT300?

​

As I noted above, this... Bass Guitar Combo Amp Eden Amplification WT-300 TC12

 

[AaronMayer]

As I noted above, this... Bass Guitar Combo Amp Eden Amplification WT-300 TC12

It's really him! Wow thank you so much, I didn't think it would be so complicated to find the answer. I found this forum by chance (I'm Italian and I had no idea about the existence of this forum full of bass players).

Pretty sure the old-style Eden tweeters are no longer made. I believe the Eden P/N was E27007. The horn lens was sort of gold. Other than the color, it looked pretty much the same as the Fostex 025H27 tweeters used by SWR.

View attachment 7009483

I thought the Eden tweeters were sort of grainy sounding, but perhaps that was the crossover in the David series cabs I used. I like tweeters in general, but I found it desirable to dial the Eden tweeters way back. IMHO SWR tweeters seemed a bit smoother.

This is vital information. I was sure they no longer made this tweeter, but I'm sure you can always find something used online. I have no idea why the original one was thrown away (they are now easily repairable components in my area). Thank you so much for giving me this information.

Yeah, pretty much like that, but not quite. It looks like a DC112XLT but the port is a round port instead of a shelf port. The amp he has is not that one that originally came with the DC112XLT, which made its first appearance in the 2005 Eden catalog. It originally came with the WT330 "Time Traveler" amp as pictured in the @DWBass post. The last time it was offered in 2009, it could be ordered with the WT405 amp if you preferred (same amp, more power). The idea behind this was to put the WT amp in a combo with a David-series 112XLT speaker. It's the EC-1260M speaker that was also found in the D112XLT cab. The speaker is an 8Ω speaker and it handles 250-watts rms

There was also a CXC-112 combo but it was a tall cab and a coaxial speaker:
View attachment 7009560
The amp that originally came with it, the WT330 would put out 200-watts (all watts ratings are rms watts) into 8Ω, 330-watts into 4Ω. and 420-watts into 2Ω. With the WT405 it would put out 250-watts into 8Ω/405-watts into 4Ω and 620-watts into 2Ω

It used the standard Eden Tweeter Horn #E2700. The crossover was set at 2.5KHz @18db

So I just went through all the Eden catalogs starting in 1997, which was the first real catalog and it's not in any of them. If @AaronMayer can give us a shot of the backplate on the cab and also the back of the amp he has with it, I might be able to come up with more info. And if Armin (@Bassmann1968) drops inn, perhaps he'll recognize it. I immediately thought it was the DC112XLT but like Aaron said, the porting is different. I suppose it's possible that it is a pre-1997 combo?

There were also some EN combos but those didn't use the WT amps.

Hoping for pictures of the backplate on the cab (where the tweeter adjustment is, and the back of the amp. Might be a WT300?

​

Thank you for the precision and accuracy with which you responded. The amplifier has the date marked on the back as 1994 if I'm not mistaken, I'll take more accurate photos of the system later today. However, someone has already found the model for this "combo" in the replies at the bottom of the topic.

 

[blastoff]

i had a 2x10 cabinet like that once.
looks like if you get the rack ears you could mound the head in that cabinet, no?

 

[AaronMayer]

Yeah, pretty much like that, but not quite. It looks like a DC112XLT but the port is a round port instead of a shelf port. The amp he has is not that one that originally came with the DC112XLT, which made its first appearance in the 2005 Eden catalog. It originally came with the WT330 "Time Traveler" amp as pictured in the @DWBass post. The last time it was offered in 2009, it could be ordered with the WT405 amp if you preferred (same amp, more power). The idea behind this was to put the WT amp in a combo with a David-series 112XLT speaker. It's the EC-1260M speaker that was also found in the D112XLT cab. The speaker is an 8Ω speaker and it handles 250-watts rms

There was also a CXC-112 combo but it was a tall cab and a coaxial speaker:
View attachment 7009560
The amp that originally came with it, the WT330 would put out 200-watts (all watts ratings are rms watts) into 8Ω, 330-watts into 4Ω. and 420-watts into 2Ω. With the WT405 it would put out 250-watts into 8Ω/405-watts into 4Ω and 620-watts into 2Ω

It used the standard Eden Tweeter Horn #E2700. The crossover was set at 2.5KHz @18db

So I just went through all the Eden catalogs starting in 1997, which was the first real catalog and it's not in any of them. If @AaronMayer can give us a shot of the backplate on the cab and also the back of the amp he has with it, I might be able to come up with more info. And if Armin (@Bassmann1968) drops inn, perhaps he'll recognize it. I immediately thought it was the DC112XLT but like Aaron said, the porting is different. I suppose it's possible that it is a pre-1997 combo?

There were also some EN combos but those didn't use the WT amps.

Hoping for pictures of the backplate on the cab (where the tweeter adjustment is, and the back of the amp. Might be a WT300?

​

I went to look but there is absolutely no reference in the cabinet. I can't find any plates visually, could there be some code or reference located inside the cabinet?

 

[AaronMayer]

Anyway these are the specs of the amplifier. Unfortunately the photos aren't great because my father took them for me in a hurry. If necessary I'll make more! Can anyone recommend any types of cabinets to put under this amp to get maximum performance?

 

[AaronMayer]

Pretty sure the old-style Eden tweeters are no longer made. I believe the Eden P/N was E27007. The horn lens was sort of gold. Other than the color, it looked pretty much the same as the Fostex 025H27 tweeters used by SWR.

View attachment 7009483

I thought the Eden tweeters were sort of grainy sounding, but perhaps that was the crossover in the David series cabs I used. I like tweeters in general, but I found it desirable to dial the Eden tweeters way back. IMHO SWR tweeters seemed a bit smoother.

could you recommend me a good tweeter to install? I found an original one in an Italian online shop, but obviously they ask for a lot of money

 

[Z-Bass]

The Eden WT300! I played one of those for years. Back then you could send it back to Eden for an upgrade option (for a fee) to convert it to a WT400, which I did. In addition to the added power section, there were a couple of other upgrades including making the gain controlled compressor defeatable and also they replaced the controls with smoother pots. The original ones had detents that were so wide, one click and it the adjustment could be substantial. The tone was so rich with lots of adjustability. Sadly mine crapped out on me at a gig. I did get it repaired but it was difficult as Eden was no more and finding parts/schematics was scarce. I also had started trying other amps and moved on, so I eventually sold it. Sometimes I wish I kept it for recording purposes.

I used mine with a 4 ohm Eden 410xlt cabinet for years. Also had an 8 ohm 210xlt for smaller gigs. There are lighter weight options nowadays but I'd recommend getting a 4 ohm cab or two 8 ohm cabinets to maximize the power.

 

[AaronMayer]

The Eden WT300! I played one of those for years. Back then you could send it back to Eden for an upgrade option (for a fee) to convert it to a WT400, which I did. In addition to the added power section, there were a couple of other upgrades including making the gain controlled compressor defeatable and also they replaced the controls with smoother pots. The original ones had detents that were so wide, one click and it the adjustment could be substantial. The tone was so rich with lots of adjustability. Sadly mine crapped out on me at a gig. I did get it repaired but it was difficult as Eden was no more and finding parts/schematics was scarce. I also had started trying other amps and moved on, so I eventually sold it. Sometimes I wish I kept it for recording purposes.

I used mine with a 4 ohm Eden 410xlt cabinet for years. Also had an 8 ohm 210xlt for smaller gigs. There are lighter weight options nowadays but I'd recommend getting a 4 ohm cab or two 8 ohm cabinets to maximize the power.

I guard it jealously. I'll look for something! in all honesty I'm tempted by the 4x10, but I'd like something compact. I'll take a look around the web and evaluate.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

Hi everyone, a few years ago I inherited a David Eden amplifier from a cousin, with separate head and cabinet. The amplifier is from 1994, a fairly common model with excellent sound quality. I’m having a really hard time identifying the model of this cabinet. Additionally, I noticed that the tweeter is not original, and I would like to purchase the one that is installed in this model. I’ve really tried everything, from Google Lens to various searches, but I can't find an answer. Can anyone help me out? Also, could you recommend a cabinet to better utilize the amplifier’s qualities for live music? Thanks in advance to anyone who responds

Yes. It’s what left after the amp was taken out of Eden’s almost 90 lbs combo. The cab should function similarly to a their infamous D-210-XLT rated at 350 watts.

 

[mbrain]

Glad to help. I don't think there's a plate on this one. The right hand side of the back of the amp pics shows where a cable enters the cab. But if there's a knob on the cabinet (not amp) to adjust the tweeter level, a pic would be helpful.

If you look closely, you should be able to figure out how to mount the head in the cabinet (although it may require rack ears). I sort of assume that someone took the head out because they wanted to use it with different cabs.

As to the horn/tweeter, are you sure it's not the same thing in a different color? Still a little odd that someone changed it because I thought you could simply replace a failed diaphragm.

As to additional cabs, back when the Eden forum was active, a number of people used a pair of D112XLT cabs. I might try one of those. Just make sure the impedance of your existing cab is 8 ohms.

 

[Luther]

Anyway these are the specs of the amplifier. Unfortunately the photos aren't great because my father took them for me in a hurry. If necessary I'll make more! Can anyone recommend any types of cabinets to put under this amp to get maximum performance?

Look for a used Eden D-112XST. For full power you will need a single 4 ohm cab or (2) 8 ohm cabs in parallel. What's the impedance of your cab? If 8 ohms you can pair it with a used D-112 XST or XLT. You can also pull your tweeter and see if it has any manufacturer markings.

 

[AaronMayer]

Glad to help. I don't think there's a plate on this one. The right hand side of the back of the amp pics shows where a cable enters the cab. But if there's a knob on the cabinet (not amp) to adjust the tweeter level, a pic would be helpful.

If you look closely, you should be able to figure out how to mount the head in the cabinet (although it may require rack ears). I sort of assume that someone took the head out because they wanted to use it with different cabs.

As to the horn/tweeter, are you sure it's not the same thing in a different color? Still a little odd that someone changed it because I thought you could simply replace a failed diaphragm.

As to additional cabs, back when the Eden forum was active, a number of people used a pair of D112XLT cabs. I might try one of those. Just make sure the impedance of your existing cab is 8 ohms.

I dismantled the amplifier that fits into the cabinet space because I had it checked by an electrical technician who assured me after the check that it is in excellent condition, apart from the knob covers which need to be replaced. This one features the David Eden WT-300-BP amplifier, from September 1994. Unfortunately the tweeter was replaced in the past by my cousin who told me it was broken and he couldn't get it repaired in the past, as he comes from a small town in the south of Sicily. So now I find myself having to replace the piece but I can't figure out which brand I could fit to get a good result. For example, I know that the tweeter is approximately 11x11 cm in size, a perfect square.