Double P pickup bass... wiring options

[secondbestcody]

I’m converting my Epiphone Ripper PJ into a PP, reversing them. But, it has the 3 way toggle and I’m not opposed to putting in a rotary switch for more versatility. What are some good wiring options I can do with a rotary switch instead of a toggle?

 

[Torrente Cro]

I put 4 way switch on my double P: series, parallel, neck, bridge.
All positions have useful sounds.

 

[secondbestcody]

I put 4 way switch on my double P: series, parallel, neck, bridge.
All positions have useful sounds.

You wouldn’t happen to know where I can find a wiring diagram for that would you?

 

[Torrente Cro]

You wouldn’t happen to know where I can find a wiring diagram for that would you?

Here it is:
Oak Grigsby 4-way 2-pole Lever Switch Instructions | stewmac.com

 

[secondbestcody]

I like the positions you have set up, but I want to use a rotary switch on mine since it is a Ripper and it already has a spot for the switch since I would be replacing the three way toggle. Any idea what kind of rotary switch I would be looking for? I have never wired up a rotary switch before.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

If the pickups have enough output you can wire each of them to a push/pull volume pot for series/parallel & have two volumes instead of a selector switch.

 

[secondbestcody]

If the pickups have enough output you can wire each of them to a push/pull volume pot for series/parallel & have two volumes instead of a selector switch.

I like that idea, but I like the rotary switch idea more. I’ve been trying to figure out what I need and what I need to do to make it work.

EDIT: Just wanted to add it is a VVT setup which I’d like to keep but just add the rotary switch making it:
1. Neck solo
2. Series
3. Parallel
4. Bridge solo

Any help is appreciated.

 

[secondbestcody]

I found this one, but I need to know how to wire a neck volume and bridge volume instead of just the one volume in this diagram

 

[ctmullins]

The series setting makes the two pickups become one big pickup, so two volumes isn’t suitable.

 

[secondbestcody]

The series setting makes the two pickups become one big pickup, so two volumes isn’t suitable.

Essentially what I’m going for is wiring my Ripper reissue with two P pickups to be wired like the original with a 4 way rotary switch and have the 4 setting I posted above. I have never dealt with a rotary switch before so I have no idea what I need or how to wire it.

EDIT: I’m an idiot. I didn’t realize that the original Rippers were wired with one volume and a mid and treble. So 1 volume it is and that wiring diagram will work. Thanks for everyone’s help.

 

[ctmullins]

@ofajen is a proponent of using the Q-filter as the mid control in a Ripper scheme. Seems fitting, since Bill designed the original Ripper electronics.

Edit: and @40Hz too!

 

[40Hz]

Essentially what I’m going for is wiring my Ripper reissue with two P pickups to be wired like the original with a 4 way rotary switch and have the 4 setting I posted above. I have never dealt with a rotary switch before so I have no idea what I need or how to wire it.

EDIT: I’m an idiot. I didn’t realize that the original Rippers were wired with one volume and a mid and treble. So 1 volume it is and that wiring diagram will work. Thanks for everyone’s help.

If you want to take it all the way, a Wilde Q-filter module is the same Bill Lawrence passive midrange circuit found in the Ripper.

 

[secondbestcody]

@ofajen is a proponent of using the Q-filter as the mid control in a Ripper scheme. Seems fitting, since Bill designed the original Ripper electronics.

Edit: and @40Hz too!

I don’t think I want to get too crazy with it, I think I’ll just stick to a volume/tone with the rotary switch. Thanks though.

 

[secondbestcody]

What rotary switch would work for what I’m trying to do? Is it a 2 pole 4 position? 3 pole 4 position? I’m having a hard time finding the one in the wiring diagram.

 

[sikamikanico]

If you haven't made up your mind about pickups yet, I'll just go ahead and suggest Wilde P46. They're great, inexpensive, and a nice tribute to Bill Lawrence

 

[ctmullins]

What rotary switch would work for what I’m trying to do? Is it a 2 pole 4 position? 3 pole 4 position? I’m having a hard time finding the one in the wiring diagram.

2 pole 4 position. But you could use a 3 pole, and just not use the third pole.

You could also use a 5 or 6 position, and not use the other positions, or treat them like mute positions.

 

[secondbestcody]

If you haven't made up your mind about pickups yet, I'll just go ahead and suggest Wilde P46. They're great, inexpensive, and a nice tribute to Bill Lawrence

Thanks, I plan on using two sets of DiMarzio Model P’s reversed.

2 pole 4 position. But you could use a 3 pole, and just not use the third pole.

You could also use a 5 or 6 position, and not use the other positions, or treat them like mute positions.

Thank you. The 3 pole one is more readily available. What pole would I not use?

 

[Torrente Cro]

I like the positions you have set up, but I want to use a rotary switch on mine since it is a Ripper and it already has a spot for the switch since I would be replacing the three way toggle. Any idea what kind of rotary switch I would be looking for? I have never wired up a rotary switch before.

Unfortunately I never wired rotary switch, but the principle should be the same. If you get 2 pole 4 way rotary switch, wiring should be the same. You just have to figure mapping between connectors on two different switches.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

I’m converting my Epiphone Ripper PJ into a PP, reversing them. But, it has the 3 way toggle and I’m not opposed to putting in a rotary switch for more versatility. What are some good wiring options I can do with a rotary switch instead of a toggle?

You may wish to consider series-parallel for each pickup, i.e. the two halves in parallel or series. Parallel will get you more of a J pickup tone (a little more polite, maybe) which might work well for the bridge pickup especially if you want more of a solo J bridge sound.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

I like that idea, but I like the rotary switch idea more. I’ve been trying to figure out what I need and what I need to do to make it work.

EDIT: Just wanted to add it is a VVT setup which I’d like to keep but just add the rotary switch making it:
1. Neck solo
2. Series
3. Parallel
4. Bridge solo

Any help is appreciated.

I don't think you'd get much from (2) that would be that usable. That's where I might put in the bridge (solo, parallel) option. But don't ask me how to wire it up.