Double Bass Forum Trolls and how (and how not) to deal with them

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Hi all. Recently we have had several trolls in the DB forum. I just wanted to remind everyone that when you encounter someone who you feel may be a troll or is engaging in trolling, please report the post(s) in question rather than responding, and be patient. Reports go to a forum that all site moderators can see, and you are likely to get the quickest response there.

Thanks, and remember not to engage trolls. Engagement and drama is what they live for, their food. Don't feed them - just report them, and we will deal with the rest.

Thanks!
 
It's a shame. Behaviors' like that of Trolls is indicative of a bored person.

I have often said: "There is nothing more dangerous than a bored child" ( or, somebody that acts like one ).
 
How do you recognize a troll? Do the mods provide any guidelines?

If you have to ask you can't afford one?

I thought there was a rule that we can't respond to moderators or something like that. Or was it that we can't talk about how moderators work or who the moderators are. The rule of fight club is you do not talk about fight club kind of thing.


Disclaimer: I'm not trolling.
 
If you have to ask you can't afford one?

I thought there was a rule that we can't respond to moderators or something like that. Or was it that we can't talk about how moderators work or who the moderators are. The rule of fight club is you do not talk about fight club kind of thing.


Disclaimer: I'm not trolling.

You can absolutely respond to and interact with moderators either in threads or privately. We're bassists and members who either volunteered as moderators or just aren't very good at saying "no".

What you can't do is discuss and debate moderation publicly. You're always welcome to PM a mod directly or go through the Help Desk to discuss/debate moderation privately. As for "who the moderators are", neither Chris nor I are anonymous. Some of the BG mods are and they have a larger and more volatile community to contend with, so I think I understand why. Doxxing anyone who is trying to keep their exact persona semi-private is textbook trolling.

If you're posting about bass playing, music, and equipment, you're probably just fine unless you're being hostile to other members or violating the Commercial User's Policy or any other stated rules. It's not hard to be cool here, it doesn't take much.
 
How do you recognize a troll? Do the mods provide any guidelines?

You can find many definitions of trolling online. This is a pretty good one. The video included in it is actually pretty spot on IMO/IME regarding the motivations of trolls.
 
How do you recognize a troll? Do the mods provide any guidelines?
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Dont ask me!
 
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I’m on both sides of TB.

You can also press Ignore button to avoid trolls. Their posts won’t show up in your normal feed. Works really well.

Simply click on that persons Username, then click Ignore. Done. (To Unignore, do the same steps).

You can later click ‘Show Ignored posts’ and each ignored post on that page will appear prefaced with ‘You are ignoring this content’ or something like that. This feature helps remind me who I shouldn’t feed (react to).
 
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I CAN AVOID LABLED POSTS, BUT ON THIS SITE, I CAN'T NOW AVOID VIEWING PICTURES OF UKRAINIAN TORTURE VICTIMS, AND NOW, TODAY, ADS FOR HANDGUNS. I'M NOT SURE MY INTEREST IN LEARNING ABOUT/FROM OTHER BASS PLAYERS HERE IS WORTH THE UPSET I SEEM TO GET FROM SUCH UNRELATED EMOTIONAL TRIGGERS.
 
@notabene

I don't understand your post. I don't see the things that you are referring to on Talkbass and they are certainly topics that we don't allow forum discussion of. I'm going to start a private conversation with you to try to understand better. I may ultimately refer to you to the help desk or one of the customer services forums where you can raise your issue or ask your question and get responses directly from site administrators. But let me see if I can help first.

And, it's okay to use some lower case letters. I can read it either way.
 
If you see only lower case letters, how will you know I'm shouting?

For some days there have been pictures (on my talkbass pages) of a man's badly whipped (bloody) back with the (I ad lib here) "Vladamir putin tortures christians in Russia". And... for the first time today there were ads for handguns (pistols) which claimed to be apparently better than whatever guns you/we might have. As a militant pacifist (an oxymoron too wonderful to rewrite) I would like to not be exposed to vivid, visceral reminders of how shaged up the world is. I am aware of Putin's deplorable behavior without being told about it when expecting a heated arguement about "rosin" e.g.

Thank you for answering my bitching, but... I find Talk Bass useful, and generally civil in its heated discussions about devisive issues like string brands. (for playing bass, not whipping dissidents.
 
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If you see only lower case letters, how will you know I'm shouting?

For some days there have been pictures (on my talkbass pages) of a man's badly whipped (bloody) back with the (I ad lib here) "Vladamir putin tortures christians in Russia". And... for the first time today there were ads for handguns (pistols) which claimed to be apparently better than whatever guns you/we might have. As a militant pacifist (an oxymoron too wonderful to rewrite) I would like to not be exposed to vivid, visceral reminders of how shaged up the world is. I am aware of Putin's deplorable behavior without being told about it when expecting a heated arguement about "rosin" e.g.

Thank you for answering my bitching, but... I find Talk Bass useful, and generally civil in its heated discussions about devisive issues like string brands. (for playing bass, not whipping dissidents.

Those Ukraine ones are ads coming from Razom, which all the main ad servicers are pushing everywhere right now. It's nothing to do with Talkbass and entirely to do with Google's ad choices, and it's one of the ones that they've been paid to push out enough that it's not contingent on your search and browser history at all, unlike the majority of the ads you get.

As for the handguns one, I don't know what to tell you, as I've never gotten firearm ads except for when I was searching for them—but it's not outside the realm of reason that something similar is happening there. After all, I never use fiverr but I see ads for it constantly, including here on Talkbass. If you've got personalized ads entirely disabled, then that possibility of it just picking things at random out of the highest-paying advertisers becomes the entire expectation.

Paul, and maybe the other admins, might be able to go in and adjust some preferences to try and stop such ads from being shown on the site, but that's only a reactionary thing—there's no way to stop ads from appearing before one of the many users on the site receives them, and then they have to go back into the reports and see what all the ads are and start selecting which ones to block, from what I remember.

Add on that the ads are still individually geared towards each individual user, and thus no two users are going to have the exact same rotation of ads showing, and it gets to be a real hassle to try and see what's showing and what ought to be blocked and what not.

Frankly, the easiest solution for everybody involved that I can see, if you like Talkbass and use it often enough, would be to pick up a gold supporting membership and go entirely ad-free.
 
If you see only lower case letters, how will you know I'm shouting?

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So, instead of engaging me privately to try to help, you've chosen to ignore my direct message and keep going here?

Click on the "help" button in the footer and explain to the admin who replies what you are experiencing and they may be able to help advise you on browser settings. I don't think TB is selling ads to gun manufacturers. The Internet targets ads based on browser history.

I withdraw my offer to help and will stick to my role moderating DB forum posts, including this one.

DO NOT KEEP THIS UP HERE. ALL CAPS INTENTIONAL.
 
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Might be worth mentioning, if you set your browser to delete history and cookies on exit, there can be no tracking on your browsing history, so most websites cannot provide the intrusive adds that they consider should be important to you. Most browsers allow this.

The other thing worth mentioning is that a small monthly contribution to TB eliminates adds after you login. I can only speak for myself, but I've found TB/DB is worth much more to me and my double bass playing than the measly monthly monetary contribution that I make. Just sayin'...
 
Trolls aside, we’re living in really f’d up times and the internet is the Wild West with its targeted ads and subversive political manipulation. Let’s all just agree that it ain’t right. Notabene (Steven) - yes practice more, of course, but please don’t leave - we like you.