Help a poor confused soul? (LS-2, Split & blend Meatbox, Loops, Switchers etc)

wawawawa

wawawawa

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#1
Hey Bass Friends! (Fiends?)

I'm finishing up a new pedalboard (a Novo 18 - pics will follow!).

I have the usual suspects and the chain is like this:

Tuner
Compressor
*Octave (3Leaf Octabvre)
*Dirt (Xotic BB Bass Preamp)
*Fuzz (3Leaf You're Doom)
*Env Filter (3Leaf GR2)
*Synth / Wild-card (Dedalo Byte Bass Synth)
*Modulation (SA Orbital Modulator)
Reverb (Cheap Spring Reverb made by Ammoon - copy of a Malekko)

All of the pedals with an asterisk (*) are going into a Onecontrol Agamidae programmable loop switcher.

I also have a DOD Meatbox and a Boss LS-2.

What I would like is to be able to press a pedal and engage earth-shattering sub-bass goodness from the Meatbox but as an addition to the effect output. That is, I would like the sub added on to whatever is coming out of the Loop-switcher output.

So, I was tinkering and tried the following:

Tuner
LS-2 Loop A - Meatbox (with no dry signal, just the glorious sub-bass)
LS-2 Loop B - The rest of the chain
Modulation (we want to add modulation to everything)
Reverb (as above)

When I do this - with A+B enabled - it sounds great! The extra sub-bass is simply fantastic.

However, in order to switch off the sub, I can either:
- switch off the Meatbox, which results in my clean signal blended with the effect out of Loop-B (which I don't want)
- switch the LS-2 which results in both loops being bypassed and no effect. (which is also not what I'm looking for).

How can I have Loop A always on and a toggleable Loop B?

Am I missing the obvious way to do this?
Should I be expecting the LS-2 to be able to do this?

Thank you in advance for any suggestions or advice!

Cheers
 
#2
Shouldn't you be able to place the Meatbox in the chain and use a special TRS splitter cable to throw the suboctave out to the PA? The old Meatbox has a separate output for the PA but if you use the TRS cable to split the signal you can send the sub out and it will be there whenever you engage the Meatbox.

Stole this from somewhere else:

Tip = Octave+Sub
Ring = Dry
Sleeve = Ground
 
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DasClyde said:
Shouldn't you be able to place the Meatbox in the chain and use a special TRS splitter cable to throw the suboctave out to the PA? The old Meatbox has a separate output for the PA but if you use the TRS cable to split the signal you can send the sub out and it will be there whenever you engage the Meatbox.

Stole this from somewhere else:

Tip = Octave+Sub
Ring = Dry
Sleeve = Ground
Click to expand...

Thanks for this. I had forgotten about the TRS... Great idea!
 
#4
With the TRS cable, and if you wanted to send everything out one cable, blended you do this:

Bass to Meatbox
Tip to In B on the LS2
Ring to looper box or clean tone.
Output of looper to Input of LS2
OutA to InA on LS2. (You may not even have to do this, some LS2s automatically do it...

Set to A+B mode, and levels to suit.

Leave the MB always on, use your looper on your clean signal, and turn on the LS2 for subs.
 
#5
Alien8 said:
With the TRS cable, and if you wanted to send everything out one cable, blended you do this:

Bass to Meatbox
Tip to In B on the LS2
Ring to looper box or clean tone.
Output of looper to Input of LS2
OutA to InA on LS2. (You may not even have to do this, some LS2s automatically do it...

Set to A+B mode, and levels to suit.

Leave the MB always on, use your looper on your clean signal, and turn on the LS2 for subs.
Click to expand...

Awesome! I think this is the solution! So, I guess I need a TRS splitter cable to do this?

Many thanks!
 
#6
wawawawa said:
Awesome! I think this is the solution! So, I guess I need a TRS splitter cable to do this?

Many thanks!
Click to expand...

TRS to two mono... Like this one:
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Hi All

And a few weeks later, I finally get around to cabling this little beauty up:
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Signal Chain:
Bass -> Polytune mini -> Xotic SP Compressor -> DOD Meatbox
Using the Meatbox stereo (TRS) out, I use a splitter cable as suggested.
DOD Meatbox Tip (Sub-bass + Octave) -> LS-2 loop B.
DOD Meatbox Ring (Normal) -> Agamidae Loop Switcher input.
Then in the Loop Switcher we have:
  1. OC-2 (Low octave only)
  2. MXR Bass Octave Deluxe (Mix for "standard" octave sound)
  3. Xotic BB Preamp (Gain) (Used with OC-2 for synth sounds)
  4. 3Leaf Doom Fuzz
  5. Dedalo Byte Bass Synth
  6. Maxon AF9 Envelope Filter
Then the output of the Agamidae -> LS-2 -> Soundblox Orbital Modulator -> Spring Reverb -> Amp

So, when I click the LS-2, it adds a glorious, room-shattering sub-bass to any effect I've dialed in with the rest of the pedals with optional modulation or reverb on top.

Thank you to all for the help / advice!
 
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#8
Here I was, thinking about how brilliant my idea about two separate chains was only to see that somebody had already done it. :D

I had the exact same "problem" only I don't use a looper for my "dirty" chain. How should I connect my effects to achieve the same solution? I'm using an LS-2 as well.
 
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