Hercules GS405 vs GS414

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I've narrowed my choice of stand down to the GS405B or GS414.

What I like about the GS405 is that it is supported from the bottom as well as the top.

Looking for other input though. Which would you choose and why.
 
Get the GS414B. It has better instrument support than the GS405B.

I own the GS405B and several GS412Bs. The GS412B is essentially the same as GS414B with Auto Grip System to safely lock instrument in place but with one difference that the GS412B has no bottom support whereas the two front legs of the GS414B function to support the guitar/bass bottom when positioned upright on the stand (so, it's not only the GS405B which has bottom support as well as the top).

My GS405B went back into its box cause the upper yoke is too tight for wide neck guitar/bass, such as 5 or 6 string bass neck, whereas the Auto Grip System found on the GS412B/GS414B has no problem supporting my 7 string guitar as well as 5 or 6 string bass (though not my 7 string bass).
 
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I've narrowed my choice of stand down to the GS405B or GS414.

What I like about the GS405 is that it is supported from the bottom as well as the top.
no, you don't want that.

"supported from the bottom" just means "able to be knocked out of the top part" :( it's also just another part to come off and get lost.

the one to get is the GS415, the one where the head part folds down for transport; set up correctly (as low as possible without the guitar touching the floor) it's actually safer and more stable than anything outside a multi-guitar "boat" stand.
 
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I like both stands for different reasons. If the neck will fit, I'll almost always go with a hanging stand like the GS414B or GS415B. If the shape of the instrument is really wacky, the GS412B is a great choice.

The GS405B really shines with a headless instrument. The neck area hooks around to make sure an instrument can't easily be dislodged. It's not foolproof, but it is fool-resistant.
 
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The GS405B really shines with a headless instrument. The neck area hooks around to make sure an instrument can't easily be dislodged. It's not foolproof, but it is fool-resistant.
Still, I wish the GS405B neck area hook was made to support wider neck basses.

Even a cheap, almost similar but not so reliable, unknown brand stand, could be used with my 7 string bass:

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Still, I wish the GS405B neck area hook was made to support wider neck basses.

Even a cheap, almost similar but not so reliable, unknown brand stand, could be used with my 7 string bass:

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the thing about stands like this is that whether the top part "locks" or not the whole thing can still be very easily knocked over. you also have the issue of that bottom fork getting flipped over, if somebody then sets a guitar on it like that it'll slide off.

i guess for a big ol' 7-string (or headless) neck you'd want something that just cradles the body from underneath, like this:
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these are at least stable and have no removable parts to get lost.

my complaint here is it can sometimes be a problem trying to leave the instrument plugged in, the cable can tangle in the hooks and the plug is sometimes right in the way. also, on a dark stage those black, hard-to-see hooks are at just the right height to get stepped on :dead:
 
the thing about stands like this is that whether the top part "locks" or not the whole thing can still be very easily knocked over. you also have the issue of that bottom fork getting flipped over, if somebody then sets a guitar on it like that it'll slide off.

i guess for a big ol' 7-string (or headless) neck you'd want something that just cradles the body from underneath, like this:
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these are at least stable and have no removable parts to get lost.

my complaint here is it can sometimes be a problem trying to leave the instrument plugged in, the cable can tangle in the hooks and the plug is sometimes right in the way. also, on a dark stage those black, hard-to-see hooks are at just the right height to get stepped on :dead:

Should I mention that own several Hercules Stands products and I really like them a lot, including this GS402BB that just cradles the body from underneath:

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With this model, problem of "bottom fork getting flipped over" will never happen. It's also relatively stable and definitely has "no removable parts to get lost". This stand definitely could carry my big ol-7 string just fine and it has been a staple in my gigbag for quite few years.

And now the thing with GS405B...

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this one is newer than previously mentioned GS402BB. It has taller back support (that supports the neck instead) which I preferred. So when I first saw it and found out it was already available in my country, I bought it instantly.

My purpose was to replace that cheap not so reliable unknown brand stand previously attached on my last post, which up to now still resides at the side of my desk for momentary putting down my guitar when practicing. But unfortunate the GS405B neck area hook was made too small to support my 6 and 7-string bass, so I regrettably had to revert back to that cheap not so reliable unknown brand stand at the side of my desk.
 
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Has anyone used a GS 414B with a headless 4-string bass with a 40mm nut width? Thanks.

I use mine with an Ibanez EHB 4 string, which I think is 41mm.
I attached the spacers which came with the stand, onto the cradle arms and it has been fine.
The Ibanez 'headstock' flairs out from the neck enough to grab onto the stand.