How to transpose from E major down to B major with a 4 string?

Our band wants to cover a song originally in E major, which is sung by female. Since our singer is male, he wants to transpose down a P4 to B major, but the original being a E major I already have notes hitting the open E string.

Without using a 5 strings, what are my options?
1. transpose everything up a perfect fifth. Would it be too high for bass when others (guitar and keyboard) are transposing down?
2. transpose down perfect fourth as long as I could, only transpose up for those chords below A.
3. any other suggestions?
 
Our band wants to cover a song originally in E major, which is sung by female. Since our singer is male, he wants to transpose down a P4 to B major, but the original being a E major I already have notes hitting the open E string.

Without using a 5 strings, what are my options?
1. transpose everything up a perfect fifth. Would it be too high for bass when others (guitar and keyboard) are transposing down?
2. transpose down perfect fourth as long as I could, only transpose up for those chords below A.
3. any other suggestions?
It really depends on the tune, and you might have to get creative with 're-entrant' movement. What is the song?
 
Our band wants to cover a song originally in E major, which is sung by female. Since our singer is male, he wants to transpose down a P4 to B major, but the original being a E major I already have notes hitting the open E string.

Without using a 5 strings, what are my options?
1. transpose everything up a perfect fifth. Would it be too high for bass when others (guitar and keyboard) are transposing down?
2. transpose down perfect fourth as long as I could, only transpose up for those chords below A.
3. any other suggestions?
Yep, that's what you have.

Well, you could transpose up an octave and a fifth, but you'd really run off the top of the instrument.

Some things you take up, some things you take down, some passages you play something different.
 
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A lower key doesn’t mean all the notes will be lower because of the mechanics of our instrument. This happens with brass and woodwinds too. If you don’t want to get a fiver, or tune your bass B to D, you have to use your musical sense and play what fits the song.
Take the approach that you never heard the song before and have to play a part based on the chord changes.
 
As has pointed out "it depends," and one thing it depends on what everyone else in the band does. You already know that the vocals are going to be transposed down, not up -- since that's the point of the key change -- and my guess is that the guitarist(s) will likely transpose down as well. If so, it would make the most sense for you to do the same -- they way you probably would if you were just handed a random song and asked to play it in E.
 
As others have said, in so many words...."it depends." While the vocal melody may indeed have been moved a perfect fourth down, the rest of the band is not necessarily moving up or down (unless the guitarists are just using capos...hopefully not). It's all in how the guitarists and keyboards are "voicing" the chords.

A simple example....

An E major chord could be played E, G#, B (root position). If you wanted to make it a B chord, you could play D#, F#, B (first inversion)..the bottom two notes have moved down a step (half and whole, respectively), and the top B hasn't moved at all. Basically, the "location" of the chord hasn't moved up or down, really, in the range of the instrument playing it.

You would choose which octave to play your bass lines in based upon how the other players are voicing the chords.
 
The feel, energy and sound is going to change dramatically no matter what you play or how or where you play it. While I am not a proponent of just buying more gear to buy more gear, a detune pedal could be helpful in maintaining some fingering patterns if you decide to play it lower, although not useful if playing it higher. An octave pedal could allow some things to sound lower (ie- a lower octave) if you choose to play in a different (ie- higher) place on a four-string bass.

I feel in many situations like this, when someone is suggesting to go up/down a fourth or fifth with cover songs, and all the work needed to put it in whatever key that is about as far from the original as you can go on a scale of keys and notes, I kind of feel like that's the universe's way of saying: pick another song for the singer to sing, or pick another singer to sing the song.

I've seen good bands do this and transpose THAT much up/down, and even the non-musicians in the audience can tell something is "REALLY different", which in most cases is basically saying nicely that something doesn't sound right, sound good, or sound like the cover is supposed to sound.

But if it MUST be done, and your band is all about very original and distinctive takes on known cover songs, I return to my original suggestions...
 
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A lower key doesn’t mean all the notes will be lower because of the mechanics of our instrument. This happens with brass and woodwinds too. If you don’t want to get a fiver, or tune your bass B to D, you have to use your musical sense and play what fits the song.
Yep. And note, really, even *with* a 5-string, the same is true. If you were just transposing by a fret or two it might not matter, but a fourth is more significant, and that low B0 is a pretty deep note, and a line that sounded good in the original key could sound too muddy if you just transposed it down a fourth.

On a quick listen to that song, I'm hearing the bass doing mostly just root notes, not connecting them into much of a melody? At least, most of the time. So I suspect you'd be fine just playing the parts that you can as written and bumping the others up an octave.
 
Our band wants to cover a song originally in E major, which is sung by female. Since our singer is male, he wants to transpose down a P4 to B major, but the original being a E major I already have notes hitting the open E string.

Without using a 5 strings, what are my options?
1. transpose everything up a perfect fifth. Would it be too high for bass when others (guitar and keyboard) are transposing down?
2. transpose down perfect fourth as long as I could, only transpose up for those chords below A.
3. any other suggestions?
I wish I could help you. I got tired of dealing with this and bought a 5 string. BTW, Is there a reason you even need to do this particular song?
 
I'd suggest siting down, and learning to play it proper on your four string bass. There are online pitch transposers that allow you to download a tune after you transpose it up or down in pitch, by semitones. I use it frequently. Link here below.
If you've ever tried playing bass with people who like to play a lot of Stevie Ray Vaughn tunes- and you try it on a five string- you already understand why using a four string tuned down a half step- is far easier to do, because that's how they did it.

 
I went to a 5 string years ago because of this sort of thing. There are two other options you didn’t mention:
  • Retune the bass from EADG to BEAD for the song. This is probably impractical because of the time lost in performance and the unlikelihood that the strings will be playable with so much less tension, but deserves mentioning.
  • What I did before I got a 5er, which was to play the bass notes as written EXCEPT those notes below the low E, which I would transpose up an octave. Depending on the song, this can work really well or pretty poorly.
 
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Our band wants to cover a song originally in E major, which is sung by female. Since our singer is male, he wants to transpose down a P4 to B major, but the original being a E major I already have notes hitting the open E string.

Without using a 5 strings, what are my options?
1. transpose everything up a perfect fifth. Would it be too high for bass when others (guitar and keyboard) are transposing down?
2. transpose down perfect fourth as long as I could, only transpose up for those chords below A.
3. any other suggestions?
If you don't have a lot of notes to hit on the E string, you can tune it down to the lowest note you'll have to play and play it there. Commonly folks will down-tune the E to D or sometimes C with D being the most common. I did that for years because I only had a 4-string, but it wasn't a big deal because we'd only play one or two songs a night that had to go down below the E. The trick with doing that though is to be sure you tune that string back up after that song! ;)

Then I played with a group that had about 6-songs that needed a drop-tuned E string to play. That "be sure to tune back up" became a bit of a problem because with 6 different drop-tune songs in between normal tuning songs, sometimes I either didn't have enough time to tune back up before someone started the next song (Evil Eye delivered to whoever did that...MR. DRUMMER!) or I would just plain forget to tune it back up. So in 2009 I finally bought a 5-string. It doesn't sound as good as my '82 Jazz does (nothing else sounds that good:smug:) but it does have a decent sound. So then it's a matter of swapping basses between songs as needed. That makes it easy.

Another thing you can do is get a Hipshot Drop-Tuner that fits your bass. It allows you to drop the E string to whatever note you need it to be at the flick of a lever. Usually those will drop it to a D, but you can tune the dropped note to another note that you want. They are quick and easy to change on the fly and if you forget to release back to normal, just takes a fraction of a second to do so. And if you get the correct one for your base everything fits in the holes for your tuning peg and backplate so you don't need to drill any holes in your bass.

One of the things you'll see bands do that are touring all the time or playing multiple nights per week is drop their entire instruments tuning from an E to an Eb. In that case, since it will be used for every song, it just makes more sense to drop your strings from E, A, D, G, to Eb Ab, Db, and Gb. It's easier on everyone singing because you don't have to sing quite as high as you would at concert pitch, but as long as everyone is tuned the same, you can just play int the same positions and fingerings that you did when playing in E. However, if any of the musicians actually have perfect pitch, that can drive them a bit nuts. But that's not what you're playing everything 1/2-step low, so that won't work for you..

So your choices are:
1.) down-tune your E string and transpose those E string notes on the fly - remember to tune back up afterwards.
2.) Get a D-tuner so you can flip it back and forth on the fly as needed.
3.) Buy yourself a 5-string! This choice both looks better on stage; it's the easiest way to do it, and you get to buy a new bass!.

OH.....WAIT....THERE'S MORE:
Another thing that you can do is try playing your entire patterns up in an octave higher register, or just shift part of your pattern to that higher register. If the song calls for a low D that is on a B string, try hitting that note on the D an octave up. Sometimes that works fine and sometimes it doesn't. But if you get used to playing your patterns or your runs in various parts of the neck, that can work out fine without a lot of thinking.
 
It definitely won't sound good if you transpose note by note down a perfect 4th. 5 strings bass and detuner are just bad advice. What you need to do is to write down the chord progression in the new key (from a quick listen, the chorus should be G#m E F# B and so on), and make a new bass line in the spirit of the original, while making a smart use of the tessiture of your instrument. You need to know what range sounds good, not too low, not too high, depending on the desired effect.
 
Our band wants to cover a song originally in E major, which is sung by female. Since our singer is male, he wants to transpose down a P4 to B major, but the original being a E major I already have notes hitting the open E string.
Without using a 5 strings, what are my options?
1. transpose everything up a perfect fifth. Would it be too high for bass when others (guitar and keyboard) are transposing down?
2. transpose down perfect fourth as long as I could, only transpose up for those chords below A.
3. any other suggestions?