Inquiry about scales modes

[Stonewallll]

Hello,

Is there a comprehensive book, list or website with tablatures for double octaves of all scales and modes?

I was thinking about getting bass grimoire but was wondering if anyone else has utilized this?

 

[bholder]

I think if you search you'll find there are too many to choose from, not too few... (subbed for any good recommendations, though).

 

[Stonewallll]

I found some generic ones on some other sites but was wanting a comprehensive list to just practice routinely. I have seen Scott’s videos as well and there was a video of a guy on YOUTUBE i forgot his name that practiced 5 hours straight just the scales and tones, wonder if he got it transcribed. That was some good work right there.

 

[Malcolm35]

This is only one octave, but, should get you started.

Major Scale Box. One finger per fret
...Index...Middle..Ring…..Little
G|---2---|-------|---3---|---4---| 1st string
D|---6---|-------|---7---|---8---|
A|---3---|---4---|-------|---5---|
E|-------|---R----|-------|---2---|4th string
You may recognize this pattern with dots.
Adding the numbers let the pattern come alive.
Place the R (Tonic or Root ) note then play the spelling for
the scale or mode you want.

Scale Spellings

• Major Scale = R-2-3-4-5-6-7 Home base
• Major Pentatonic = R-2-3-5-6 Leave out the 4 & 7
• Natural Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7 Major scale with the 3, 6 & 7 flatted.
• Minor Pentatonic = R-b3-4-5-b7 Leave out the 2 & 6.
• Blues = R-b3-4-b5-5-b7 Minor pentatonic with the blue note b5 added.
• Harmonic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-7 Natural minor with a natural 7.
• Melodic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-6-7 Major scale with a b3

Mode Spellings

• Major Modes
• Ionian = R-2-3-4-5-6-7 or the same as the major scale.
• Lydian = R-2-3-#4-5-6-7 Major scale with a sharped 4th.
• Mixolydian = R-2-3-4-5-6-b7 Major scale with a flatted 7th.
• 
  
• Minor Modes
• Aeolian = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7 or the same as the natural minor scale.
• Dorian = R-2-b3-4-5-6-b7 Natural minor scale with the b6 raised to a natural 6.
• Phrygian = R-b2-b3-4-5-b6-b7 Natural minor scale with the b2 added.
• Locrian = R-b2-b3-4-b5-b6-b7 Natural minor scale with an added b2 and b5.

If you have not seen modes listed this way the above is the parallel mode method where the key stays the same and the notes change. I find it much easier to use on the fly than the relative way where the key changes and the notes stay the same. Each method get's you to the same notes.

Want a Middle Eastern sound. Use Phrygian. Want a nice minor sounding mode. Use Dorian. Want an up beat happy sound the major scale will give that, so will Ionian. Question now is do you want to play modal or tonal. Do a Google on modal harmony. Hint modal harmony does not resolve, it drowns on so the signature modal sound can develop. Do you want to use an old standby chord progression, if so go tonal. If you want to drone on go modal and use a two chord vamp made from the I chord of your key and then a chord that has the signature note of the mode being played, i.e. a chord that has a #4 for Lydian, b7 for Mixolydian, etc.

Good luck, the second octave is on you...

 

[Malcolm35]

Scales and modes on post #4, And for those wanting it here are the spellings for the chords we play.

Major Scale Box.
….Index...Middle..Ring...Little
G|---2---|-------|---3---|---4---| 1st string
D|---6---|-------|---7---|---8---|
A|---3---|---4---|-------|---5---|
E|-------|---R---|-------|---2---|4th string

Cmaj7 chord coming up in the song. Find a C note on the 3rd or 4th string and put this box's R over that C note. Then play the "spelling" for the Cmaj7 chord. That spelling is listed below and it is R-3-5-7. If you wanted to play the C major scale, that spelling is R-2-3-4-5-6-7.

Basic Chord Spellings

• Major Triad = R-3-5 for the C chord.
• Minor Triad = R-b3-5 for the Cm chord.
• Diminished Chord = R-b3-b5 for the Cdim chord.

7th Chord Spellings

• Maj7 = R-3-5-7 for the Cmaj7 chord.
• Minor 7 = R-b3-5-b7 for the Cm7 chord.
• Dominant 7 = R-3-5-b7 for the C7 chord.
• ½ diminished = R-b3-b5-b7 for the Cm7b5 chord.
• Full diminished = R-b3-b5-bb7 for the C with the little o - no strike through.

See a chord and play it's chord tones. As every key will have three major, three minor and one diminished chord it's a good idea to get your major, minor and diminished bass line chord tones into muscle memory so when you see a chord your fingers just know what will work. Now the song may only give you enough room for the root, or root five - adapt and get as many chord tones into your bass line as needed. Root on 1 and a steady groove from the other chord tones plus something to call attention to the chord change is what we do.


Trying to put all that to memory will take some time. Here is how I recommend you go about using all this information:

All major chords will have a root, a 3 and a 5. So for any major chord you need to find the root then find it's 3rd. Where are 3rds? Up a string and back a fret from the root. Where are the 5ths? up a string and toward the bridge two frets, or down a string same fret as the root. Always. Find the root then look for the 3rd and 5th where they always are.

Use this same method on the scales and modes. Major modes have the major scale as home base and minor modes have the natural minor scale as home base. Lydian has a #4 and Mixolydian will have a flatted 7. Dorian being minor will sharp the b6 into a natural 6, etc. Just one note different than it's home base. Not a step for a stepper. Once you see that, it's yours and can be used on the fly anytime you need that sound.

Happy trails.

 

[SteveCS]

Hello,

Is there a comprehensive book, list or website with tablatures for double octaves of all scales and modes?

I was thinking about getting bass grimoire but was wondering if anyone else has utilized this?

I would suggest getting hold of a notation program such as MuseScore amd writing out your own. @Malcolm35 has given you some pointers, and the notes/interval structures for pretty much any scale you want are freely available from, for example, Wikipedia. The process of writing them out for yourself in notation and TAB will teach you the notes and how they fall on the fingerboard far more quickly than just thumbing through a book. Post your first few efforts here for verification/validation.
YMMV

 

[Stonewallll]

I would suggest getting hold of a notation program such as MuseScore amd writing out your own. @Malcolm35 has given you some pointers, and the notes/interval structures for pretty much any scale you want are freely available from, for example, Wikipedia. The process of writing them out for yourself in notation and TAB will teach you the notes and how they fall on the fingerboard far more quickly than just thumbing through a book. Post your first few efforts here for verification/validation.
YMMV

Will do.

 

[Stonewallll]

Thanks so much @Malcolm35

 

[5StringPocket]

Good post. I’ve had similar questions.