Jazz Shielding Pictorial (Big Images Warning)

There have been a lot of questions about shielding and star grounding, so maybe this will help someone.

Here's the schematic I came up with to do this with:

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First, I took everything out of the cavities and cleaned them to get rid of dust and manufacturing residue. Then I applied copper foil with adhesive backing to the control and pickup cavities. I tack soldered the seams and made sure each piece of foil read 0 ohms potential with every other piece. Then I made copper tubes (wrapped the foil around a screwdriver shaft of the right diameter) that run from cavity to cavity, tack soldered on each end. I also screwed a ground lug to the wall of the control cavity through the copper shielding. See photo:

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Here's the shielding inside the pickup cavities:

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Here's a closeup of the ground lug:

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Here's the actual wiring on the pots (reference the schematic above):

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And here is the other side of the wiring:

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Here's the top side of the control plate:

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Now, while there is still single coil hum (reduced, but still there), there is no noise at all when the blend knob is centered, and the bass is quiet even when I'm not touching any grounded metal components (strings, bridge, controls, etc). Soon I will put Sadowsky hum cancelling pickups in and the bass will be dead quiet. I also will be installing a S-1 switch in place of the current volume pot to allow series/parallel switching. I'll post that stuff when I'm done.

But for now, I'm pleased. The bass is much quieter, and the control layout (blend, master volume, master tone) is much easier to work with than the stock 62 RI stacked volumes and tones.

The pickups have much more clarity now without being bright (which I can't explain, really, unless it's the cumulative effects of a lot of little changes, like how the pickups are loaded together in the stock configuration and how the absence of RFI and other environmental noise leads to clarity- who knows?).

The tone control is now also much more musically useful (I changed from the stock cheap ceramic caps to a Sprague 715P .047uf cap- the same value that was on the stock neck tone pot, but this cap, or maybe this schematic, allows for more of the tone to be rolled off if needed, and the "sweep" of the tone pot has a lot more "sweet spots").

Please note that I didn't do the actual soldering with the bass exposed like that. I had towels and scraps of old T shirt to protect the bass surfaces when the soldering gun was out.
 
Both pickup cavities and the control cavity. I'll add pictures of everything in a few weeks when I change out the pickups.

The cavities are grounded together by the copper tubes I put through the pickup wire holes from each pickup cavity to the control cavity. I made each tube longer than necessary then flanged back the excess (like peeling a banana) and pushing the excess flush against the copper on the control cavity walls and on the pickup cavity walls. Then I tack soldered the excess to the walls. On some guitars this isn't feasible, but it is on most Fenders. If there isn't room for a tube, you can use shielding paint in the small channels or just run a wire from cavity to cavity. Either way, it's important that all the cavities are shielded and tied together. At each stage, I measure with a voltometer to make sure there are 0 ohms potential between each area of shielding.
 
i just got through shielding my jazz bass as per instructions. I used a piece of wire instead of the tube method to connect the cavities...............what was the result???? A huge differerence in the amount of noise. I used to get not only hum but static electricity.... now it is dead silent. This is a great example of why this forum is so usefull. Thanks for the help L ;) yle!!!!
 
Excellent job of wiring. You bring tears to this old electrical engineer's eyes. The only thing more that I would recommend is shielding the pickup cavities. This would reduce the hum further.

1 question-does the shielding have to be copper or is aluminium OK?

You can use aluminum, but copper is MUCH easier to solder to.
 
When I shielded I did shield the pickup cavities as well and used a wire to connect the cavities. I used the copper shileding foil I got from guitar electronics com and it worked great. The entire cost was about 10 bucks!!!!!!
 
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Minger said:
In all seriousness, I'm going to try this out one of these days.

is that a DTDP (er whatever its called) switch for the first knob?

No, that's a stacked 500K blend pot. You're thinking of a Double Pole Double Throw (DPDT) push/pull pot, often used for series/parallel.

I'm expecting a Fender S1 switch in the next week or so, and when I install that I'll show the wiring. I'm using it for series/parallel and to take the blend knob out of the circuit when the pickups are in parallel.
 
xyllion said:
Excellent job of wiring. You bring tears to this old electrical engineer's eyes. The only thing more that I would recommend is shielding the pickup cavities. This would reduce the hum further.

Aw, shucks. I actually did shield the pickup cavities, but didn't take photos (I was in a rush to play my new bass). I'll be changing the pickups out for Sadowskys soon, at which point I'll add photos of the pickup cavity shielding.
 
Lyle Caldwell said:
No, that's a stacked 500K blend pot. You're thinking of a Double Pole Double Throw (DPDT) push/pull pot, often used for series/parallel.

I'm expecting a Fender S1 switch in the next week or so, and when I install that I'll show the wiring. I'm using it for series/parallel and to take the blend knob out of the circuit when the pickups are in parallel.
Thanks. The DPDT pot is all I've seen up to now, and I may give that a shot, although I don't know how trustworthy my skills are with messing with stuff.

I'm just sick of having to turn down both volumes if I want it quieter...