Double Bass Mahler help

[Notaluthier]

Does anyone know what measure this: excerpt is? I know it's Mahler 3 but can't find the measure or mvt.

 

[LouisF]

I don't think it's the 3rd. But was recorded with Bernstein at the same period:



Symphony No.3 (Mahler, Gustav) - IMSLP: Free Sheet Music PDF Download

San Francisco Symphony - Mahler: Symphony No. 3 in D minor

Check the 6th or 7th

 

[neilG]

3rd Symphony. First movement, in the first few lines. Those aren't the licks you should worry about.

 

[Notaluthier]

3rd Symphony. First movement, in the first few lines. Those aren't the licks you should worry about.

Which measures are the ones to worry about?

 

[neilG]

Which measures are the ones to worry about?

Listen to the piece while following the part and you'll know where the challenges are.

 

[Andy Mopley]

3rd Symphony. First movement, in the first few lines. Those aren't the licks you should worry about.

At 26, you can take a break ;-)
All, out of interest, how do you bow double stops octaves, as indicated in same score, attached? Divisi?? Thanks!

 

[elberon]

Andy, the octaves are played divisi. One bass top note, stand partner bottom.

 

[Malten]

At 26, you can take a break ;-)
All, out of interest, how do you bow double stops octaves, as indicated in same score, attached? Divisi?? Thanks!

It actually says in the part; "geth." is short for getheilt (or geteilt), German for "divided".

 

[Alexis Duntov]

3rd Symphony. First movement, in the first few lines. Those aren't the licks you should worry about.

Thanks for this!

 

[CaseyVancouver]

3rd Symphony. First movement, in the first few lines. Those aren't the licks you should worry about.

Great stuff.

Interesting that a piece written in 1896 has so much bass going down below E to low C territory.
At that time basses in England often were 3 strings, while perhaps a lot of bassists in Vienna and Hamburg were running around with 5 stringers.

 

[neilG]

Great stuff.

Interesting that a piece written in 1896 has so much bass going down below E to low C territory.
At that time basses in England often were 3 strings, while perhaps a lot of bassists in Vienna and Hamburg were running around with 5 stringers.

The piece was premiered in Berlin. He wrote for what he knew existed.

Edit. Actually the full piece premiered in NY. Several movements were played in Berlin before.

 

[Notaluthier]

Streicher's bass also appears to be blonde, these days blonde basses are shunned in an orchestral setting, does anyone know why?

 

[neilG]

Streicher's bass also appears to be blonde, these days blonde basses are shunned in an orchestral setting, does anyone know why?

I've never heard that. Does someone go around with a color chart to determine the degree of blondness? Sounds ridiculous.

 

[Don Kasper]

Just another example of the "Blond Leading the Braun".
Danke.
Sorry...

 

[ILIA]

Streicher's bass also appears to be blonde, these days blonde basses are shunned in an orchestral setting, does anyone know why?

Only bad players are shunned in an orchestral setting--quite often the same players who would be overly concerned with the color of someone's gear.

 

[ILIA]

If you really want to know what licks to worry about first, also look at the 1st movement around 10 measures before Reh. 13 through Reh. 16. Similarly, look at the melody after Reh. 18. If you don't have a gate for your low Db, you are hosed. If you don't have an extension, just stay home. Then go to Reh. 43 through Reh. 48, also in mvt. I. Of course, there's also the first page, beginning at Reh. 3. The further along you go on the first page, the more you can get away with faking it, but do try in earnest to nail everything instead of writing off the fast notes on the first page as an effect. It's an amazing sound when all the bassists in a section can actually play all those notes on the first page, and together, and with the same right articulation. All it takes is one or two posers who are "faking it," to ruin the bass section on the first page. Interestingly, there really isn't too much to worry about for movements II through VI, where you are just along for the ride, for the most part--enjoy it!!!

 

[Mark_T]

Streicher's bass also appears to be blonde, these days blonde basses are shunned in an orchestral setting, does anyone know why?

I haven't heard that. My bass is fairly light and nobody has complained, but I'm not really on the professional circuit.

 

[neilG]

In my orchestra bass section, blond is okay. If, however, you show up with something like this, we can't guarantee your safety:

 

[Notaluthier]

In my orchestra bass section, blond is okay. If, however, you show up with something like this, we can't guarantee your safety:
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