Mixing Station: Where have you been all my life? (IEM)

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So, this is not a completely unmentioned app, but I think it has slipped by without getting the proper awareness. And, its not as if I as well have not been aware of the ability to control an IEM mix through an app. But, up until recently, when running through a house PA system we would split our lines and run our own in ear mix. Mostly because our mixes were already set for each of 6 band members. It works like a dream but it’s a lot to setup and looks messy.
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But recently, I discovered the Mixing Station app which works with practically all digital mixers. And, most soundguys are happy to open up the monitor mixes via WiFi. Aside from doing away with the splitting and extra setup, a real advantage here is that being a universal app brings familiarity and confidence to the aspect of running the band mixes off someone else’s board as messed up mixes can be a disaster. Here’s a few screenshots
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FYI the labels below will update to the channel labels when actually connected to a mixer so you can tell what each channel is. I use the color coding because it makes spotting things on the fly easy.
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Over time, my band has become more and more reliant on this method. We simply have a short XLR snake/pigtail that we connect our XVive transmitters to, and give that to the soundguy or attach to a return snake. While I like to run the app from my phone attached to my mic stand, I’ve found it’s very practical to have an iPad on a dedicated mic stand that can be passed around or accessed by the rest of the band members. This method has become core to our workflow when playing through FOH systems and if you’re not already on this train I highly recommend checking it out. The base app is free and I believe the capability to connect to each brand of mixer costs a nominal 1-time ~$5.

FYI I have nothing to do with this app or company. Just sharing what’s worked for my band.
 
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Great advice on this. I've been using a splitter snake so FOH and our IEM rig get the same signals. I will need to have a discussion about this method at our next gig. I don't know what mixer they have but I'm sure I can get mixing station to work with it.
 
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Most mixers have a personnel monitor mix app for their mixers, that only let the user access their monitor mix sends.
Allen Heath "QU You" for instance. I've set up quite a few bands to use it with my system if they are not carrying their own IEM split system.

One advantage to carrying your own IEM split system is that your monitor mixes are already dialed in from the start or at least very close. That said I've seen bands that look like they are starting from scratch every time they use their system!
 
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So, this is not a completely unmentioned app, but I think it has slipped by without getting the proper awareness. And, its not as if I as well have not been aware of the ability to control an IEM mix through an app. But, up until recently, when running through a house PA system we would split our lines and run our own in ear mix. Mostly because our mixes were already set for each of 6 band members. It works like a dream but it’s a lot to setup and looks messy.
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But recently, I discovered the Mixing Station app which works with practically all digital mixers. And, most soundguys are happy to open up the monitor mixes via WiFi. Aside from doing away with the splitting and extra setup, a real advantage here is that being a universal app brings familiarity and confidence to the aspect of running the band mixes off someone else’s board as messed up mixes can be a disaster. Here’s a few screenshots
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FYI the labels below will update to the channel labels when actually connected to a mixer so you can tell what each channel is. I use the color coding because it makes spotting things on the fly easy.
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Over time, my band has become more and more reliant on this method. We simply have a short XLR snake/pigtail that we connect our XVive transmitters to, and give that to the soundguy or attach to a return snake. While I like to run the app from my phone attached to my mic stand, I’ve found it’s very practical to have an iPad on a dedicated mic stand that can be passed around or accessed by the rest of the band members. This method has become core to our workflow when playing through FOH systems and if you’re not already on this train I highly recommend checking it out. The base app is free and I believe the capability to connect to each brand of mixer costs a nominal 1-time ~$5.

FYI I have nothing to do with this app or company. Just sharing what’s worked for my band.
Don't take this wrong but I would look at racking that system up so the bulk of it can stay connected all the time

Maybe a small rack with a lift off top for the TouchMix or put it on a slide out shelf for access when in use.
 
So, this is not a completely unmentioned app, but I think it has slipped by without getting the proper awareness. And, its not as if I as well have not been aware of the ability to control an IEM mix through an app. But, up until recently, when running through a house PA system we would split our lines and run our own in ear mix. Mostly because our mixes were already set for each of 6 band members. It works like a dream but it’s a lot to setup and looks messy.
View attachment 7067731
But recently, I discovered the Mixing Station app which works with practically all digital mixers. And, most soundguys are happy to open up the monitor mixes via WiFi. Aside from doing away with the splitting and extra setup, a real advantage here is that being a universal app brings familiarity and confidence to the aspect of running the band mixes off someone else’s board as messed up mixes can be a disaster. Here’s a few screenshots
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FYI the labels below will update to the channel labels when actually connected to a mixer so you can tell what each channel is. I use the color coding because it makes spotting things on the fly easy.
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View attachment 7067734
Over time, my band has become more and more reliant on this method. We simply have a short XLR snake/pigtail that we connect our XVive transmitters to, and give that to the soundguy or attach to a return snake. While I like to run the app from my phone attached to my mic stand, I’ve found it’s very practical to have an iPad on a dedicated mic stand that can be passed around or accessed by the rest of the band members. This method has become core to our workflow when playing through FOH systems and if you’re not already on this train I highly recommend checking it out. The base app is free and I believe the capability to connect to each brand of mixer costs a nominal 1-time ~$5.

FYI I have nothing to do with this app or company. Just sharing what’s worked for my band.
To be fair, many bands have been bringing their own IEM/monitor systems to gigs for years. MY bands have been doing that going back for at least 10 yrs.
For some venues we bring a splitter snake, and some have splits to give us. It varies. But it's not like we're taking a different system to each gig that warrants using Mixing station. QSC TM, Mackie DL, Behringer X or XR (or Wing), etc ALL have their own apps.
Some of my bands have the splitter built in with a rear panel that one always connects to.. so bass goes to chan 9, vox goes to 14, kick to #1, etc.
Consistent band monitoring whether split to fo from the house.. and totally independent from FOH.

Sadly, there are still venues that (I play) that DO NOT allow access to their consoles via WIFI.
Did a gig a few yrs ago at Gilley's Dallas (private party) where the pro sound guy (using a Midas M32) had no knowledge of remote control of IEM's so I had show him how to set it up (using our Router attached to his console) and assure him we couldn't touch the other mixer controls. Gig went fine. We mixed our monitors, he ran FOH.

I have mixing station. It works fine. I'm not a fan of the graphical interface (very basic) but it does work well and does support multiple console types for a small fee for each. And be aware that fee is.. for each supported console.
And, there are other 3rd Party apps that work well for IEM mixes.
My $0.02
 
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Don't take this wrong but I would look at racking that system up so the bulk of it can stay connected all the time

Maybe a small rack with a lift off top for the TouchMix or put it on a slide out shelf for access when in use.
Keeping things at the component level make it more practical for the duo/trio spin-offs that happen several times each week - the rack can be a bit much for those and require a trailer.
 
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To be fair, many bands have been bringing their own IEM/monitor systems to gigs for years. MY bands have been doing that going back for at least 10 yrs.
For some venues we bring a splitter snake, and some have splits to give us. It varies. But it's not like we're taking a different system to each gig that warrants using Mixing station. QSC TM, Mackie DL, Behringer X or XR (or Wing), etc ALL have their own apps.
Some of my bands have the splitter built in with a rear panel that one always connects to.. so bass goes to chan 9, vox goes to 14, kick to #1, etc.
Consistent band monitoring whether split to fo from the house.. and totally independent from FOH.

Sadly, there are still venues that (I play) that DO NOT allow access to their consoles via WIFI.
Did a gig a few yrs ago at Gilley's Dallas (private party) where the pro sound guy (using a Midas M32) had no knowledge of remote control of IEM's so I had show him how to set it up (using our Router attached to his console) and assure him we couldn't touch the other mixer controls. Gig went fine. We mixed our monitors, he ran FOH.

I have mixing station. It works fine. I'm not a fan of the graphical interface (very basic) but it does work well and does support multiple console types for a small fee for each. And be aware that fee is.. for each supported console.
And, there are other 3rd Party apps that work well for IEM mixes.
My $0.02
We do carry our mixer and splitter in our trailer as a fallback should the WiFi mix control not be offered. I think we’ve only had to pull it out a couple times.
 
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I had for years only used it as a way to fully-control consoles via my phone vs being locked in with a bus-only app. I had always heard people rave about it but never took the time to dive deep into the customizability of it. On a whim watched a video fully breaking it down and was like OH. I've not had the band/opportunity/need to really get in there and make a super specific layout for any of the bands I play with yet but I'm glad to know the full extent of what the app can do because wow is it stellar.
 
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recently, I discovered the Mixing Station app which works with practically all digital mixers. And, most soundguys are happy to open up the monitor mixes via WiFi.
mixing station is cool except for where you have to pay money to access each new brand of mixer

i keep an ipad mini with my in-ear stuff, already loaded up with every mixing/monitor app i might encounter (they're all free) for just this purpose

i do like mixing station though, especially for my current life where i don't run these digital boards very often and thus don't really know my way around them; i can navigate MS reasonably fine and that lets me navigate different makes of mixer reasonably fine, at least well enough to get my stereo monitor mix together

the one thing i don't like is how you have no visual cues when you go from say ch 1-8 to 9-16, there's no swiping or scrolling or background color change or anything, just some little numbers and letters change when you touch the right square

even worse when you're just trying to tweak your monitor mix and you don't realize you're actually altering FOH because there's no big visual cue as to which mix you're on
 
even worse when you're just trying to tweak your monitor mix and you don't realize you're actually altering FOH because there's no big visual cue as to which mix you're on

There's a fairly recent feature added to the theming in Mixing Station that lets you set the colors of the faders themselves. I have mine set up so that when I'm mixing an aux bus, all the faders are bright yellow.
 
There's a fairly recent feature added to the theming in Mixing Station that lets you set the colors of the faders themselves. I have mine set up so that when I'm mixing an aux bus, all the faders are bright yellow.
While I'm not really up on all the Mixing Station apps, the dedicated monitor mix apps that many mixers have available only let you have access to the mix send levels for the mix that you set it up for. You can also adjust that mixes over all eq and compression.
 
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While I'm not really up on all the Mixing Station apps, the dedicated monitor mix apps that many mixers have available only let you have access to the mix send levels for the mix that you set it up for. You can also adjust that mixes over all eq and compression.

Yeah, those are handy when you're mixing your own monitor. You can also select an option like that when connecting to a mixer with Mixing Station. You can confine yourself to only one aux bus mix.
 
Can you share how to get to that feature? Sounds cool but I can’t find it
Under Settings > Mixer tab > "Sends on fader" section.

The "SoF Fader-Knob" setting will cause the fader knob color to match the selected mix when in sends on fader mode. There are also other similar settings for the "slot" color and the fader background itself.
 
Under Settings > Mixer tab > "Sends on fader" section.

The "SoF Fader-Knob" setting will cause the fader knob color to match the selected mix when in sends on fader mode. There are also other similar settings for the "slot" color and the fader background itself.
Awesome! Thank you! For anyone following, to set the mix color, you have to long click on one of the channels OR choose the ‘…’ in the upper right and choose Scribble Strip. Then, scroll all the way down to expose the mix color settings. Awesome feature, but very well hidden :)
 
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