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I'm not asking to buy something, just out of curiosity and hearing people's opinions on this (and hopefully start a cool thread for people to gear-talk in)!
Thanks for your reply!
I remember you from the old thread about the DP122 vs Geezer (I guess).
I was pretty keen on the Dimarzio, but now I'm gravitating more towards the Geezer (because, after having re-read everything, I found out the the Dimarzio is pretty dark and boomy per sè and I'm thinking of changing pickup mainly just because I want to be able to minimize the oomph if needed and I want it to growl more).
I'm not sure about the "ever" bit, I only have limited experience, but my vote goes to Wilde P46.
Does that mean you've learned that the Dimarzio is pretty dark and boomy from reading about it?
I have Geezer P's in two basses, a Dimarzio Model P, a Duncan Quarter Pounder, and an EMG original active P and I like all of them in varying degrees.
I would not describe the Dimarzio as dark and boomy, it's a great pickup.
The Geezer is great pickup.
The original EMG Active P is a very good pickup.
The Duncan QP is better than a crappy pickup.
IMO.
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Well, you're right, you've gotta try a bass with it and judge with your ears, but I don't know anyone who's got a bass with a Model P, so instead of buying something and spending lots of moneys on something that I might not like, I thought that the GZR would've been the more appropriate choice.
I'm still thinking about it, though.
Regarding the DP122 vs Geezer question.
ive got both and definitely prefer the DP122 over the Geezer. it just seems to have more charterer.
Nothing wrong with the Geezer at all, but i expected great things coming from a Fender stock pup, and to be honest i cant really hear much difference other than the Geezer doesn't get thumpy with the tone all the way off like almost every other P bass P ive owned. Because of this i'd say its not one of the most versatile.
And yes, ive had both pups in the same bass (not at the same time of course)
ive got both and definitely prefer the DP122 over the Geezer. it just seems to have more charterer.
Nothing wrong with the Geezer at all, but i expected great things coming from a Fender stock pup, and to be honest i cant really hear much difference other than the Geezer doesn't get thumpy with the tone all the way off like almost every other P bass P ive owned. Because of this i'd say its not one of the most versatile.
And yes, ive had both pups in the same bass (not at the same time of course)
Uhm... sorry, I probably use the term without even knowing 100% what it means.
Can you describe what ''thump'' exactly means in a bass tone?
Hmm, good point. Im not sure if my description will make sense, but with my other pups when i roll the tone right off there seems to be a bit of a low mid hump in the tone, gives a nice thud/kick. With the Geezer all i hear is the tone with no top end, but not that hump.
i dont really want to say Motown thump, but its kind of what i feel is missing from the Geezer.
Just before i put the Geezer in my Fender P, i recorded a few bass lines in to my Zoom R8. Once the Geezer was in i re recorded the same lines, and can mix between the two. Neither sound bad, and in fact both sound very, very close, until i back the tone off. Then the standard Fender pup seems to take the lead. I also recorded the same lines with my Squier CV (original version), with the DP122 in it. This sounded better to my ears, more character and punch. Also had the thumpy tone when rolled off.
I dont have the recording anymore, it was just something i did to see if i could tell the difference.
i dont really want to say Motown thump, but its kind of what i feel is missing from the Geezer.
Just before i put the Geezer in my Fender P, i recorded a few bass lines in to my Zoom R8. Once the Geezer was in i re recorded the same lines, and can mix between the two. Neither sound bad, and in fact both sound very, very close, until i back the tone off. Then the standard Fender pup seems to take the lead. I also recorded the same lines with my Squier CV (original version), with the DP122 in it. This sounded better to my ears, more character and punch. Also had the thumpy tone when rolled off.
I dont have the recording anymore, it was just something i did to see if i could tell the difference.
ok, got it!
Doesn't the GZR go a little deeper than the stock one, by the way (thump apart)?
Not to my ears, but i guess there are many stock pups in Fender basses so it depends on what you are comparing it to.
my point though, was that without having the typical (IME) rolled off tone it doesn't seem as versatile as even a stock pup. I appreciate this is just MY opinion though, and to be honest its not a tone i would use a lot, but even so, if it cant do it as well as the next pup......
my point though, was that without having the typical (IME) rolled off tone it doesn't seem as versatile as even a stock pup. I appreciate this is just MY opinion though, and to be honest its not a tone i would use a lot, but even so, if it cant do it as well as the next pup......
The GZR is a very appropriate choice and the Model P is also a very appropriate choice, and it's good to ask for opinions here, but there are also good video reviews of each on YouTube, that way you can listen to them for free.
The Dimarzio is $69 and the EMG GZR is $109 so neither one is lots of moneys.
And your bass is...? MIA?
Because, I'll tell you what: a friend of mine has got a custom bass made by a lutist that's a friend of ours... and he put the GZR P/J set in it. Since I was pretty interested, a week ago I went to see his band at band practice, I brought my bass to try it with his amp and then try his bass (using only the P pickup) to see the difference.
My bass is a Made in Mexico P-Bass. I have to say... I didn't really notice a (sorry for the alliteration) noticeable difference between the two. Uhm... I might have been vaguely distracted, I surely didn't try them at high volume and didn't pick as hard as I use to, but still, that was the verdict. I'd be completely fine with it, though, because indeed I like the sound of my bass, I just want to improve a few things. And you commenting that it isn't much difference just confirmed my feelings (although someone else told me that I might have to try my bud's bass again, because there is a difference... well, of course there is, by the way).
But being the overthinker I am (I'm on talkbass.com after all, right? haha) I'm still not sure if I should get it, because of the different nuances, indeed. But mostly I guess it'd be the consciousness of not having a stock bass anymore. I've never modded any of my instruments in any way (not even aestethic, to be honest), so... yeah...
I know it's reversible, though, of course. But I wouldn't want to spend moneys and time on something that I might not want anymore at some point, awesome or not.