Mylar (Polyester) Sheet as Fretless Fingerboard Protection (Feedback)

Hi all,

Lurker first post, but I found some advice from the site and wanted to give some back.

I recently purchased a cheap fretless and despite my light playing and intention to properly bend, I wanted to protect the fingerboard from roundwounds while getting my mwah. I also wanted to avoid epoxy or CA coatings, mostly due to laziness. I came across the threads below suggesting Mylar, and wanted to share my results and recommendations.

Link: Alternative to epoxy or CA on a rosewood fretless fingerboard

Link: Mylar coating on fretless board -- RESULTS!!!

Both threads suggest putting on a sheet of Mylar plastic on the fingerboard and then trimming afterwards. I did this at first, but even after meticulously trimming the plastic with a sharp knife/razor blade, the adhesive-backed plastic I purchased had a hard time conforming and staying adhered to the very fine rounded edge of the fingerboard. This edge would ever so slightly come away from the fingerboard, and although the adhesive is strong enough that I doubt it would start to really come off, it can be annoying to feel that plastic edge when handling the neck.

I found much better results by tracing the fingerboard, offsetting the line in 1/16" (1.5mm) inward, and carefully putting that profile on the fingerboard like a phone screen protector

Overview:
Material:
Mylar is brand name of "BoPET (biaxially-oriented polyethylene terephthalate) is a polyester film made from stretched polyethylene terephthalate (PET)" (Wikipedia), so I got a sheet of 0.002" (McMaster-Carr) and 0.005" (McMaster-Carr) adhesive-backed polyester from McMaster-Carr to try out. They come in paper-backed rolls, which I left in my warm Southern US garage for a couple days to flatten under some light pieces of wood.

These sheets were 27" x 38" and the 27" length is just about perfect to cover a long-scale fingerboard. The 0.005" is a bit stiffer than the 0.002", so if you wanted to forgo my advice and put on an oversized piece and trim to the fingerboard, definitely use the thinner stuff. I don't have the ear to really notice a difference in tone between the two. I will say, for this adhesive-backed stuff, the thinner 0.002" sheet orange-peels more when applied, just due to the thinness of the material conforming to texture of the adhesive coating applied on the back. The stiffness of 0.005" results in a smoother application, but reflections will have some slight waviness if that concerns you.

I cut 4" x 27" sheets to make them more manageable and easier to store.

Execution:

Fingerboard sanded/polished as you like, cleaned with a solvent to help the eventual adhesive.

I traced the profile with the neck off; I'm sure there's ways to trace/transfer a template of the fingerboard still on the body. I placed the polyester sheet on the fingerboard tight against the nut (you could use some double sided-tape or the like to hold it in place), flipped both onto a conformable surface (I used bath towel). While gently pressing the fingerboard + polyester sheet into the towel, I traced the edge of the fingerboard onto the paper backing of the polyester.

With the polyester sheet off the neck, I offset the profile inwards 1/16" (1.5mm). I cut out the inner profile with scissors, next time I'd probably try to get the long cuts done with a straight edge and knife.

Align the sheet on the fingerboard as to be installed, and use some masking tape piece(s) on one edge, around the fingerboard/neck to keep it aligned. Then it's just a matter of lifting the polyester/tape hinge and carefully peeling off the paper backing, and gently laying it back down on the fingerboard, with gentle tension on the tape to maintain the alignment set. Credit card wrapped in a cloth or paper towel to press the adhesive firmly on.

I'm no expert but I think it sounds fine, didn't take long, and I think it was much less fussy+better looking than oversizing and trimming afterwards.

Pic is with 0.005" polyester

Polyester.jpg
 
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That’s pretty slick, I wouldn’t have thought that would hold up for long, but poly is pretty dang hard. I have a Warmouth Frankenjazz I had coated with some kind of bulletproof polyester by Pedulla back in the late 80’s, it still looks great with only minor scratches.
 
Interesting......Thanks for doing the R & D and writing about it here.

A close alternative is clear packing tape. It's clear PET/Mylar, about 0.001" thick, with some nasty adhesive on the back. I use packing tape a lot here in my shop, not just for packaging, but for putting a quick non-stick surface on fixtures. Glue won't stick to it, even good epoxies. It's very slippery and surprisingly tough and resistant to abrasion and cuts. But, when it gets damaged, it can be peeled up without too much trouble.

It would probably work on a fretless fingerboard, like you've done, as long as you could lay it down smooth without wrinkles. It would wear through in a little while, and you'd have to replace it every so often. It would be a temporary protective skin.
 
That's a really neat idea!

However, any fretless surface is going to be ground away by the strings if you bend (at least anything this side of anodized aluminum or hard stainless steel). Proper fretless technique will do your fingerboard a huge favor.
 
Thanks, interesting post. As Bruce says, packing tape is a close alternative, and similarly glossy. But if gloss isn't your thing... back in the board days of drafting, mylar film was a tougher alternative to vellum. It had a matte finish, and came in a few thicknesses. And it's still around, to my mild surprise. Drafting Film & Mylar Paper Drafting Film Sheets & Rolls for Drawing

No adhesive backing, but I'd think CA would work well to apply to a fingerboard.

Edit: hadn't clicked through to the prices... that'd be an obstacle.
 
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Thanks, interesting post. As Bruce says, packing tape is a close alternative, and similarly glossy. But if gloss isn't your thing... back in the board days of drafting, mylar film was a tougher alternative to vellum. It had a matte finish, and came in a few thicknesses. And it's still around, to my mild surprise. Drafting Film & Mylar Paper Drafting Film Sheets & Rolls for Drawing

No adhesive backing, but I'd think CA would work well to apply to a fingerboard.

Edit: hadn't clicked through to the prices... that'd be an obstacle.
Those prices are for commercial quantities, like fifty square yards worth at a pop. $5 at a decent art supply/drafting supply store should buy enough film to cover a half-dozen fingerboards.
 
Those prices are for commercial quantities, like fifty square yards worth at a pop. $5 at a decent art supply/drafting supply store should buy enough film to cover a half-dozen fingerboards.

Yeah, I only gave a cursory look... thought this stuff might've gone away in the 90s. It was also available in the standard (A-E) sheet sizes. A D-size (22 x 34) sheet would cover it, if you can find one.

I'm not knocking the self-adhesive options at all - easy to find, apply, and replace. Drafting film would be much trickier, but you can get a matte surface, thicker material, and the CA might give better edges. Different strokes...
 
Yeah, I only gave a cursory look... thought this stuff might've gone away in the 90s. It was also available in the standard (A-E) sheet sizes. A D-size (22 x 34) sheet would cover it, if you can find one.
A 34" scale bass is 25.5" inches (647.7mm) from nut to 24th stop, so B2 would work, and smaller boards (like almost all Fenders) could use even smaller sizes. If you don't mind being wasteful you could use an even smaller sheet and cut on the diagonal.
 
One question:

Based on sound, playability, cost, and effort to apply: was it worthwhile?

Sound and playability, I'd consider myself still very much a beginner, I just noodle around here and there but I like the mwah I have and the material doesn't affect my technique.

Cost, $9 USD not including shipping for just 1 bass, or up to 9 basses. So very inexpensive

Effort, including all my redos, about 2 hours of time considering clearing space on a table and unstringing, much of that was attempting to clean up trimming the mylar edge from the first method that I don't recommend. With my follies out the way and the advice above, I'd say this is a 20-30 minute job to trace, cut, apply and smooth out.

Definitely worth it for peace of mind for fingerboard longevity.

Something to note, if you remove the film shortly after applying, there is very little residue that can be cleaned easily with some alcohol or the like. If you are removing it after it's been on for at least days or weeks, the adhesive left will be thicker. I had to carefully scrape off the thicker bits with a razor and then get the residue with alcohol on before my penultimate application.


T o 1n3 and ardegee, know at least a couple dogs still doing high level concepts at the drafting table. Plus they still teach hand drafting to students in architecture, theatre, etc. Bound to be places that college kids can get small amounts of drafting material for a decent price.
 
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