Need help finding cool licks to end with

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Hi, I need help finding cool licks to end songs with in different types of scales.
I'm thinking specifically about the final chord of upbeat songs when everybody hits the root and shows off



I'm not sure what its called in english but if you skip to 3:13 on this video I think you'll understand. I've tried going up and down the scale but it doesn't sound very good. So if any of you have any videos of bassists doing cool licks at that end part of the song (of any type of scale) please share and write the scale if you know which it is so its easier to learn

Its this song specifically in C# major I'm going to need it for soon but I want to learn licks of any mode, so all contributions are appreciated
 
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Since no one has ventured forth... I normally end the song on the tonic I root and then walk the scale notes 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 back to the tonic as the ending.

Country is the only thing I play this way. I would not use this in my Praise music. Our Praise songs seem to have a specific ending. Country will normally tag the last line of the chorus and this walking 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 line just seems to fit.

If I heard right this songs tags the last line and then she goes into a vocal ending -- where that 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 would fit.

My two cents.
 
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That is called "a trashcan ending" and for you, a minor pentatonic run will probably work. If the key is in C# major as you say (probably actually Db major), you can try the minor pentatonic in either Bb or Db. I don't have a bass around, so I'm just going off the top of my head.

Honestly, though I think the best thing for you, might be to just play the root and 5th as a double stop and let the guitars handle all those riffs. Some times when everyone does all that riffing, it can get really noisy. But it can't hurt to try it and see what happens.
 
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Spin Doctor said:
That is called "a trashcan ending" and for you, a minor pentatonic run will probably work. If the key is in C# major as you say (probably actually Db major), you can try the minor pentatonic in either Bb or Db. I don't have a bass around, so I'm just going off the top of my head.

Honestly, though I think the best thing for you, might be to just play the root and 5th as a double stop and let the guitars handle all those riffs. Some times when everyone does all that riffing, it can get really noisy. But it can't hurt to try it and see what happens.
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Thanks, Db pentatonic minor worked great! :)
I think I like the noise though. But from a more theoretical perspective, how come Db minor works when the chord is Db major?
 
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Sigge said:
Thanks, Db pentatonic minor worked great! :)
I think I like the noise though. But from a more theoretical perspective, how come Db minor works when the chord is Db major?
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Using a minor pentatonic over a major (usually dominant) chord will give you that "gritty blues" sound. It has to do with playing the #9 over the chord. The #9 is the same as the minor third, therefore you can play a minor pentatonic and get that grit.
 
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The Funkapotamus said:
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"Maybe you should do a bendy, pull off thing while we do the dun dun dun at the end."

Piss.

I hate jamming with people who can't put their thoughts into words because they never took the time to learn their craft.

What you're trying to do is called a codetta. And typically the guitars and drummer hold the final note while the bassist brings it home in rhythmic cadence with the cymbals.
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Well, thats why I asked here, is that so bad? It doesn't have to do with taking time to learn their craft, there is SO much to learn about music, its impossible to learn everything. And I think most people rather would play with people that are eager to learn than people who pretend that they know everything, and most certainly not people who judges someone because they're not at the same level in that specific field


Spin Doctor said:
Using a minor pentatonic over a major (usually dominant) chord will give you that "gritty blues" sound. It has to do with playing the #9 over the chord. The #9 is the same as the minor third, therefore you can play a minor pentatonic and get that grit.
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Ahh, that makes sense, thanks again :)
 
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another thread where OP has probably run away because its a pissing match.

If your still around tho! just keep running over it till you find something that works for you. I'm a mostly self taught player
and I know your situation. Just keep running through ideas and take notes from people on
here who are friendly! TalkBass is hands down the best wealth of information for bassist's and bass players
from all genres/styles.
 
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Bassist13 said:
another thread where OP has probably run away because its a pissing match.

If your still around tho! just keep running over it till you find something that works for you. I'm a mostly self taught player
and I know your situation. Just keep running through ideas and take notes from people on
here who are friendly! TalkBass is hands down the best wealth of information for bassist's and bass players
from all genres/styles.
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I'm still here, and yeah I know, during my two years here I've never experienced anyone being anyway near unpleasent before :)
I've learned so much from so many different kinds of players, I'm so glad I decided to try this site out. At the beginning I didn't think there would be any point, but I quickly learned that people (well most people on here, apparently) are glad to help. As for the original question, Spin Doctor put me in the right direction, now I can experiment with various pentatonic minor licks instead of major which sounded lame in that context
 
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Sigge said:
Really? Another one??
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Oh. Riiight. I forgot my basic Psych 101 training. People ask for opinions, but what they really want is validation. Sorry I didn't tell you what you wanted to hear. I'll try again.

Running a quick scale or fancy lick to end a song is a great idea! Some people think that everyone in the band doing this at the same time is noisy and unmusical, but that's bunk. It's complex, and rich and and .. sophisticated. Be sure to insert some notes from outside the scale to add flavor. Because nothing adds flavor like a millisecond of a flattened 5th in the lowest register.

ROOT NOTES BE DAMNED!!!
 
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Sigge said:
Really? Another one??
Not everything is about competitions, awards and having articles written about you. I've noticed musicians doing this at the end of songs and it seems like a lot of fun that I'd like to be in on
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It's good to know how to do this lick, and everyone does it at some point if they play blues country, rock or R&B. (i.e. every music that will get you gigs lol) And I'm going to keep calling it a trashcan ending, lol.

Don't worry about those guys and the negative stuff they say. They are not important. There's always going to be somebody who tries to bring you down in music and life in general. Smile, flip them a double bird and move along.
 
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Sigge said:
I might as well delete this post as it seems to attract the dark and sarcastic side of TB.
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Most of the darkness you percieve is in yourself. Not in others.

Perhaps my original reply wasn't that helpful, but it was written with the intention of helping.
I meant absolutely nothing critical or sarcastic in it.

You read that tone into it yourself and replied accordingly.
 
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Some people are just ********. They can't help it. Usually they are a type that likes to show everyone how smart they are. But in general there are two types of people: Cool and Not Cool...

Anyway, it does help to know who they are so you can understand the perspective you should take with them. Personally I tend not to give a **** about what people say. I usually just tolerate them for the most part.
 
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rockinb said:
Op asked for suggestions or opinions on what scales or licks to play, not opinions like "Unless you actually do have something to prove, in which case I'm sorry for you."
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That wasn't an opinion. That was a disclaimer. I was stating that I could not interpret the OPs motivation for what he was asking.

My suggestion was that he keep it simple.

My 2nd response was a negative reaction to his negative interpretation of my 1st response.
 
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Nev375 said:
Most of the darkness you percieve is in yourself. Not in others.

Perhaps my original reply wasn't that helpful, but it was written with the intention of helping.
I meant absolutely nothing critical or sarcastic in it.

You read that tone into it yourself and replied accordingly.
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Nope. You were being a dick. It was plainly obvious. Your trying to push it off on the other guy was lame. At least the other dick was man enough to admit he was.
 
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Nev375 said:
That wasn't an opinion. That was a disclaimer. I was stating that I could not interpret the OPs motivation for what he was asking.

My suggestion was that he keep it simple.

My 2nd response was a negative reaction to his negative interpretation of my 1st response.
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Who are you supposed to be that you need to interpret someone's motivations for anything at all, ever?

Guy shows up looking for a little info, and gets a bunch of holier than thou BS...

Cool or Not Cool... Hmmm
 
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Spin Doctor said:
Who are you supposed to be that you need to interpret someone's motivations for anything at all, ever?
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Because there's usually about half a dozen different meanings that can be interpreted from anything being said. Especially in the English language.

You think I was being a dick. I wasn't. At least not the first response. The 2nd time yeah. I took offense. I should not have. Sorry.
 
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Nev375 said:
Oh. Riiight. I forgot my basic Psych 101 training. People ask for opinions, but what they really want is validation. Sorry I didn't tell you what you wanted to hear. I'll try again.

Running a quick scale or fancy lick to end a song is a great idea! Some people think that everyone in the band doing this at the same time is noisy and unmusical, but that's bunk. It's complex, and rich and and .. sophisticated. Be sure to insert some notes from outside the scale to add flavor. Because nothing adds flavor like a millisecond of a flattened 5th in the lowest register.

ROOT NOTES BE DAMNED!!!
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people didnt ask for opinions....OP asked for IDEAS. your butthurt is palpable
 
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