Open season on my pedal board order.

thedovewarlord

thedovewarlord

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Experimenting left and right and in between, I tried many different options, but I am not totally satisfied and always looking to change things up, get different sounds. This inspires me. So just looking for input, suggestions, advice, and of course jeers and jests also welcome so have at it TB people.

A few quick notes, I'm looking to add a compressor (maybe the Keely Bassist but I dont know what a hard knee is vs the Comp pro). My guess it will go in slot 10 before my delays and echoes, reverb. I also want to put the Night Owl Edison tube preamp further down the chain. I like to stack effects so use your imagination.

Here's my next order Im thinking....

  1. Precision Bass (Chrome Flats, I generally play with pick, w/some pizzacato here and there)
  2. Korg mini tuner
  3. Source Audio Spectrum (to dual expression pedal)
  4. Keeley Dark Side - multi-effects, but I mainly set it to Rotary (to dual expression pedal)
  5. Darkglass Duality Fuzz
  6. Keeley Seafoam Chorus
  7. MXR Flanger
  8. Night Owl Edison (tube preamp)
  9. Source Audio Nemesis Delay
  10. (Compressor such as the Keeley Bassist here)
  11. MXR Carbon Copy Analog Delay
  12. Earthquaker Devices Afterneath (crazy reverb)
  13. GK 700RBii Amp input
  14. effect loop -- Earthquaker Devices Nightwire (harmonic tremolo)
  15. effect loop -- Catalinbread Echorec (multi rythmic delay)
  16. Aguilar DB412 cab
In the bullpen, I have an EHX Microsynth, (big silver black red) Big Muff, Almighty Bass, Ampeg Liquify Chorus, MXR Analog Chorus and a few others.

Love to hear back any ideas. Thanks everyone.
 
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Volume pedal, octaves, filter, Comp, fuzz, Flanger, phaser, Drive, Chorus, Delay Reverb, preamp/eq, limiter, tuner.

here's the reason.. very so often you need gain make up.. because the longer the change the more the signal falls.. so buffers eq boost are better distributed between destructive sounds and mud effects

you can put anything anywhere as long as you got a gain leveler close in chain..
 
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Just a nudge, any other feedback possibly? Understand if this is a tired subject, though I tried it a different way see if anyone had thoughts to my pedals selection or maybe some other things try. Just to be clear I'm not asking for the "correct" order since that is a bit of a trigger (like "what's the best size speaker?" threads that get slaughtered)
 
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No wrong answer. What sounds good to you is the right way.
My trial and error usually starts with tuner-compression-preamp (if using one)-dirt-modulation-delay/reverb.

Tuner is tricky because some tuners have buffer and some pedals (fuzz) don't like to be after a buffer. But some let you disable the buffer. I like the tuner straight from the bass or guitar. Some people run compression early some late. I like my bass levelled/limited before any color is added. I don't always use dirt. But the world is a better place when a fuzz is followed by an octaver or chorus or flanger. Delay and reverb (yeah, I know they aren't the same thing) sound better to me after processing although you can get some cool sounds delaying into a fuzz or other effect. Have fun. Isolated power supply is a must. Good cables like EBS or Rattlesnake make a difference in that they don't add noise and they don't mysteriously stop working after sound check. Good luck.
 
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Good stuff @Killing Floor. Thanks. I have a dedicated power supply from Walrus.

I tweaked the order a little bit
  1. Precision Bass (Chrome Flats, I generally play with pick, w/some pizzacato here and there)
  2. Korg mini tuner
  3. Source Audio Spectrum (to dual expression pedal)
  4. Keeley Dark Side - multi-effects, but I mainly set it to Rotary (to dual expression pedal)
  5. Darkglass Duality Fuzz
  6. Keeley Seafoam Chorus
  7. MXR Flanger
  8. EQ Pedal (7 band, brand TBD)
  9. Night Owl Edison (tube preamp)
  10. (Compressor such as the Keeley Bassist here)
  11. Source Audio Nemesis Delay
  12. MXR Carbon Copy Analog Delay
  13. Earthquaker Devices Afterneath (crazy reverb)
  14. GK 700RBii Amp input
  15. effect loop -- Earthquaker Devices Nightwire (harmonic tremolo)
  16. effect loop -- Catalinbread Echorec (multi rythmic delay)
  17. Aguilar DB412 cab
I'm starting to think the keeley bassist is the compressor I'm choosing, might put an EQ pedal before my preamp.
 
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I’ve swapped back and forth from rounds to flats with my p bass. I really like the sound and feel of Chromes, but by far roundwounds played better with effects pedals.

So I now have two p basses, one with flats for that old school thump, and one with rounds for more modern sounds and effects pedals. (I just dial my tone knob back or use my Nordy mute on the round wound bass if I need both old school thump AND effects at a gig).

I’d recommend trying out round wounds just to see how much more they open up your effects. If you don’t like it you can just slap the Chromes back on!

edit to add: if you want a tone enhancing compressor, you may find it works well where you placed it. If you want a limiting compressor, like the Keeley, I’d recommend trying it at the very end of your chain. I use the Keeley to tame volume spikes and even out my signal between dry and engaged effects so sound guys don’t have to stress when I turn any pedal off/on. My Keeley is last in line, before my always on preamp/DI pedal.
 
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SLO Surfer said:
I’ve swapped back and forth from rounds to flats with my p bass. I really like the sound and feel of Chromes, but by far roundwounds played better with effects pedals.

So I now have two p basses, one with flats for that old school thump, and one with rounds for more modern sounds and effects pedals. (I just dial my tone knob back or use my Nordy mute on the round wound bass if I need both old school thump AND effects at a gig).

I’d recommend trying out round wounds just to see how much more they open up your effects. If you don’t like it you can just slap the Chromes back on!

edit to add: if you want a tone enhancing compressor, you may find it works well where you placed it. If you want a limiting compressor, like the Keeley, I’d recommend trying it at the very end of your chain. I use the Keeley to tame volume spikes and even out my signal between dry and engaged effects so sound guys don’t have to stress when I turn any pedal off/on. My Keeley is last in line, before my always on preamp/DI pedal.
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This. I have one bass with Chromes, for when "that sound" is the only thing that will do. The rest wear rounds for this very reason.
 
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SLO Surfer said:
I’ve swapped back and forth from rounds to flats with my p bass. I really like the sound and feel of Chromes, but by far roundwounds played better with effects pedals.
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I experiment with strings often, I have a bass with rounds. Overall, I prefer flats over rounds even with pedals. I total agree rounds do sounds different on effects, they kill it with chorus and do sound richer with fuzz/distortions. That said, good advice.


SLO Surfer said:
edit to add: if you want a tone enhancing compressor, you may find it works well where you placed it. If you want a limiting compressor, like the Keeley, I’d recommend trying it at the very end of your chain. I use the Keeley to tame volume spikes and even out my signal between dry and engaged effects so sound guys don’t have to stress when I turn any pedal off/on. My Keeley is last in line, before my always on preamp/DI pedal.
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My goal of the compressor is to just even things out, give a bit more professional sound. I dont slap and not looking for any change in tone. So taming spikes is what I am shooting for. I was thinking of putting it before my delays so the compressor doesn't effect the repeats or wash, I like them to be a bit set back vs my dry signal if that makes sense. What do you think @SLO Surfer ?
 
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Very cool. There is no wrong way. It’s not car parts. It’s personal preference for orders.
Nice call on the Walrus supply. The 120V outlet is a great feature if you ever have a big preamp or a board power amp or some funky cool pedal. It’s a very well designed supply and it’s dead quiet.
 
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Killing Floor said:
Very cool. There is no wrong way. It’s not car parts. It’s personal preference for orders.
Nice call on the Walrus supply. The 120V outlet is a great feature if you ever have a big preamp or a board power amp or some funky cool pedal. It’s a very well designed supply and it’s dead quiet.
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Gotcha. It will be all up to my ears, but while I wait to purchase it's fun to theorize and also talk about different results. I think the first place I'll start is at the very end because it's the easies to do. Then I guess trying each effect and combinations and see where it lands. My board is DIY, one long plank of plywood, exact length of a bass guitar so I use a gig bag to transport it. I painted the plank and drill holes and use locking zip ties, so nothing is permanent and have plenty of space unlike the pro boards which cost more than an average pedal.
 
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here's an older shot of my board from 2019, give you an idea of what it looks like. Besides different pedals and order, I've made my cables neater and easier to setup and pack up. Takes a few minutes to setup, and as I mentioned I had an unused gigbag, so I cut the board to length so it fits just right. The pockets are for AC extension cables and my expression pedal, spare patch cables etc.

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That's the board I am using @Adienn7 , it's just a plank of plywood. My friend at the office had this piece of scrapwood. I was like, "can I have this?". It was perfect, just trimmed it off to fit in the bag.
 
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thedovewarlord said:
here's an older shot of my board from 2019, give you an idea of what it looks like. Besides different pedals and order, I've made my cables neater and easier to setup and pack up. Takes a few minutes to setup, and as I mentioned I had an unused gigbag, so I cut the board to length so it fits just right. The pockets are for AC extension cables and my expression pedal, spare patch cables etc.

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That's the board I am using @Adienn7 , it's just a plank of plywood. My friend at the office had this piece of scrapwood. I was like, "can I have this?". It was perfect, just trimmed it off to fit in the bag.
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don't forget to mount the power supply
 
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