Putting together my son's p-bass (built from scratch), having an issue with no sound output. Let me say I'm a certified electrician and my job is troubleshooting circuitry in industrial machines, so I have a very good grasp of electricity and how it works. To me, p-bass wiring is (or looks to be) super simple. I've wired several guitars and basses as well with no problems.

That being said, I'm stuck on this. I put in Fender custom '62 pickups, using 250k CTS audio taper pots for tone and volume. Using a .047uF cap. I can't get any output. The odd time I had the pickguard out and plugged in, I got some noise when tapping the pickup posts with a screwdriver. But then I put it back in the body and get nothing (sounds like just a loose connection, but everything looks good).

Then I remove it again and still get nothing. I have pulled it out 6 or 7 times, checked soldering, resoldered things that were potentially an issue, and had the same results.

Yes the cable is good. Yes the amp works. Yes I've checked nothing is shorting. Yes the pickups are reading right (about 5.3k Ohms each, in series, lines up with Fenders 10.5k spec).

One thing I'm wondering about is the pots themselves. I unwired them and checked resistance, and found that only one side reads resistance from terminal to wiper. The other side doesn't (it just reads OL). So I opened both pots up to compare, and I have no continuity from one of the terminals to the resistive strip. That seems weird to me, but both pots are the same internally. So maybe they are supposed to have no connection on one side of the pot? It's just a dead terminal? Never heard of that, but who knows?

In all the p-bass wiring diagrams, it shows the grounded volume pot terminal to be on the right (when the connections aim downwards). So, assuming there's a difference between one side and the other, I'm going to try wiring it backwards compared to the diagram and see if that works.

If that doesn't work I'm going to try replacing the wires from the pickups, maybe one of them is broken inside.

But I'm just shooting in the dark at this point, so if anyone can clarify any of this for me, I'd very much appreciate it. Thanks!
 
Is the control cavity shielded? I know you said you checked it but since you had sound with the pickguard off I’m wondering if the hot (tip) connection on the output jack could be touching the shielding or some other ground point with the pickguard installed and/or with a cable plugged in.
Matt called it, IMHO. I've had to fix this same problem several times--the jack end of the control cutout is really tight.

Assuming this is a single-pickup P, on the pots, as you look at the BOTTOM of the pots, with the connections towards you...
Volume:
Left-Pickup hot
Center wiper-to jack hot
Right-ground, usually bent to touch the back of the pot.

Tone, the cap can go on either side, but usually...
Left-no connection, make sure it's NOT tied to ground.
Right-one side of the cap, other side of cap grounded to back of tone pot.
Center wiper- tied to the pickup hot on volume pot. (works on center jack hot too, but not as well.)
Ground wire connecting the pot backs and the jack ground.
Ground wire to the shielding, and to the bridge.

Fralin has a good wiring diagram on their web site, as do lots of other pickup manufacturers.
 
Thanks for the responses, I really appreciate it. I had checked on the grounding issue and don't think there was any problems there.

However, I've found what may be the issue. I had purchased 250k pots for both of these, and looking back in my order they are no-load pots. That's why they seem to have no connection between the resistor strip and one of the posts.

From my limited research, I don't think that works with the volume pot (?). I had never heard of them before, so I didn't notice that in the description.

Would that explain this?
 
Also, I was able to get it to send an output by swapping the volume pot connections left to right, but then the pot worked in reverse. So turning it down upped the volume, and the detent was at its quietest.

I ordered 2 basic 250k audio pots. Will let you know how it goes.
 
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Thanks for the responses, I really appreciate it. I had checked on the grounding issue and don't think there was any problems there.

However, I've found what may be the issue. I had purchased 250k pots for both of these, and looking back in my order they are no-load pots. That's why they seem to have no connection between the resistor strip and one of the posts.

From my limited research, I don't think that works with the volume pot (?). I had never heard of them before, so I didn't notice that in the description.

Would that explain this?


That certainly could be it. No load pots break the internal connection when turned all the way up and are typically used for tone pots so there’s no effect when the tone is all the way up.
 
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