Please help me upgrade my drivers and tune my cab

SickAura

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I recently reacquired my actual first bass cab that I used heavily in the late 80’s and early 90’s. It’s a Peavey 1516. I have a ton of great memories with this cab so I plan on keeping it.

I have discovered that one of the eights is blown, so I plan on replacing both. However, as I like the size and form factor of the cab - 4 ohms, one 15, two 8’s wired in parallel - I figured I may as well replace the 15 at the same time to try and upgrade it into something more useable.

I have a few other cabs so I don’t need to do this.
It’s simply for fun and learning. So please don’t try and talk me out of it!

External Cab size: 29.5 x 21.5 x 16”
Plywood: 0.75”
Weight = HEAVY so hopefully I can drop a few pounds with newer drivers too

15 compartment
- Internal volume: 3.41 cu ft (taking into account bracing and driver displacement)
- “Ports” = two triangular holes at the bottom of the baffle: 4.25x4.25x5.75 x 0.75 deep
- Tuning: 67Hz
- Driver: Peavey Black Widow 1502-4

I am considering two other drivers. Both of which require creating real ports to lower cabinet tuning to 45 Hz

Here’s how they model in winISD:

- Black Widow – Yellow line with existing “ports”
- Kappalite 3015LF-4 – Green line with 2 circular ports 3.5” x 4.75”
- Delta 3015LF-4 – Grey line with 2 circular ports 3.5” x 4.75”

Peavey Box Drivers - v2.png



What do you think? Which one would you choose?
I am leaning Kapplite as I have experience with the 8ohm version of both drivers and I like the clarity. Though I could be happy with the Delta too.

A quick question about the ports and port volume. As winISD is modeling Circular and I already have the start of 2 Tri-ports in the baffle that I plan on using/modifying – can I just calculate the same internal port volume and be OK?

8’s compartment
- Internal volume: 0.55 cu ft
- Sealed
- Drivers: Unknown. Research indicates 90 Watts 42Hz-5kHz

I am really only considering one potential driver here: Eminence Alpha 8

Here’s how it models out with the three 15's. Pink line below:

Peavey Box 15+8s.png



Do you think I will be OK with these 8s?
I did look at the Faital W8N8-150 but they're a little pricey especially when you need two.

Do you think they match up with Kappalite 3015LF-4 OK?
Any other suggestions?

The current crossover is set at 600Hz but I am thinking have one built at 800 Hz with an L-Pad on the 8’s.

Any help/advice is most appreciated.

Also here is a shot of the empty Cab that will be getting some mattress topper and casters shortly:

Empty Box.jpg
 
OMG, I have the same cab and was looking for the same mod yesterday night (Eminence 3015LF + Alpha8)!!!!!
Mine is in 10/10 condition, I like the look and size.
Have you done the speaker swap?
I play bass and guitar with a modeler (Avid Eleven Rack) and was wondering if it would be FRFR enough if replacing one of the 8" speaker for a tweeter. Would be cheaper and faster than building a Fearful 15/6/1.
 
OMG, I have the same cab and was looking for the same mod yesterday night (Eminence 3015LF + Alpha8)!!!!!
Mine is in 10/10 condition, I like the look and size.
Have you done the speaker swap?
I play bass and guitar with a modeler (Avid Eleven Rack) and was wondering if it would be FRFR enough if replacing one of the 8" speaker for a tweeter. Would be cheaper and faster than building a Fearful 15/6/1.

Give me that Fearful any day and twice on Sunday!


As I received no replies to my original post - I charged ahead and updated a different thread with the results if anyone is interested:
Peavey Reclamation Project – Need advice + Lots of Pics
 
Using WinISD 0.7, looking at different charts. The most important is Maximum SPL, as that considers both Pe and Vd. Port velocity is important too, it would show you that the port areas you're using are too small. If you're going to use the 3015LF you shouldn't tune higher than 40Hz, higher than that wastes its capabilities. I wouldn't use an Alpha 8, use an Alpha 8MRA closed back. Open up a hole or two between the top and bottom chambers so the entire box works with the woofer. Use only one midrange, that simplifies the crossover, and you don't need two midranges anyway.
 
I was thinking of using only one Beta8CX (I need a tweeter for my application) and reducing the top chambers. Will it works by cutting a big hole to help bottom chamber? And if so can I use the empty 8" speaker opening as a port?
 
Me too but already having the cab and saving almost $600.

Going against the grain here....I had a fEARful and sold it. I found that the lows were huge and the mid/highs were a little thin and brittle - so it wasn't really well balanced for my taste especially when playing softer more nuanced music. I mostly blame the 18Sound mid for this. However, when playing hard rock/metal at loud volume it was a beast.

I am not saying what I've done to my 1516 is better than a fEARful by any means. But i am saying the changes I have made seems to have made it more balanced. The two 8's sound great to me vs the single 6.5". YMMV of course
 
I was thinking of using only one Beta8CX (I need a tweeter for my application) and reducing the top chambers. Will it works by cutting a big hole to help bottom chamber? And if so can I use the empty 8" speaker opening as a port?
Crossing over to an eight at 800 Hz is appropriate with a fifteen. There's no need for a ported rear chamber or even a large sealed chamber crossed over that high, and a sealed back eight like the Alpha 8MRA has better sensitivity than an open back eight that's designed to work all the way down to 100 Hz or lower. Cut a couple of holes in the bottom of the eight inch chamber, used the sealed back eight, and if you need a tweeter use a BGH25-8 mounted on a piece of plywood covering the unused eight hole.
 
You think the Alpha8MRA with a tweeter will sound better than the Beta8CX with ADS1001?
Was looking for a single Beta8CX as Xitone cabs are well received in AxeFX community and built around a Beta12CX.
I want something fairly FRFR and not really a bass cab.