Questions about DiMarzio Jazz pickups

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So I've had my 2012 MIJ Fender Jazz '62RI for a few years now, and I love everything about it except the hum that appears when using each pickup on its own. Didn't think much of it in the earlier years when I was merely performing on stage as it wasn't as noticeable, but in the past couple of years or so where I've started recording with my band, the hum is beginning to bug me a lot more.

DiMarzio is one of the brands I narrowed my hum-cancelling options down to (there were other brands I saw as well, simply decided to look into DiMarzio first because they're the most convenient so far). For the neck pickup, I'm considering the Model J, and for the bridge pickup, I'm looking at either the Area J or Ultra Jazz, but I got a few questions for those who use them:

1) I've been wanting for a while to get a thicker- and punchier-sounding neck pickup, something with a Precision-like tone but in a Jazz single coil size. I've heard some people claim that the Model J sounds similar to a Precision: Exactly how true is this?

2) The Model J seems to be much higher in output than the other two and is likely to dominate both, especially in the neck: If I were to get a Model J neck pickup, which model, Area or Ultra, will be a better bridge pickup to match?

3) If neither combination in Question 2 is a feasible idea: What about other combinations like Area neck + Ultra bridge or Ultra neck + Area bridge? (I will most likely not be going for a Model J bridge as I prefer a more vintage-sounding bridge pickup)

4) If I decide to use the same pickup for both neck and bridge positions: Which model, Area or Ultra, is the better set when used both individually and as a pair?

If it helps, I rarely use both pickups together, I generally use either one on its own for different tones; in fact, the only time I use them together is when I'm slapping. I play a lot of different genres from R&B to alternative rock, and so far my MIJ Jazz has worked for everything (aside from me personally wanting a thicker neck pickup tone). I would say my playing is 75% fingerstyle, 15% slap, 10% pick.

As for my bass, it has a basswood body and rosewood fingerboard, a lot of my friends have commented that it's very mid-forward. Converted from VVT to concentric stacked knobs about a year ago, it has 250k volume pots, 500K tone pots, and .047 and .022 caps for neck and bridge tones respectively.

I have no way of trying out any of the pickups without buying (none of my friends have them, and even if they did, as a lefty I wouldn't be able to play their instruments anyway), so I'll really appreciate the input from people who own them and/or have had experience with them. Thanks
 
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I've heard some people claim that the Model J sounds similar to a Precision: Exactly how true is this?
The Model J is more “as close as you’re going to get”, than similar to a Precision pickup.
If I were to get a Model J neck pickup, which model, Area or Ultra, will be a better bridge pickup to match?
I think the Model J would really overpower the Area, so I would go for the Ultra Jazz. Based on your post, it seems like a Model J neck, Ultra Jazz bridge combo is the way to go with Dimarzio pickups.
I have no way of trying out any of the pickups without buying
Dimarzio does offer a 21 day exchange policy. I don’t know how easy it would be to take advantage of in Singapore, but it’s there.
 
Hey thanks for the input @Slater

The Model J is more “as close as you’re going to get”, than similar to a Precision pickup.
Haha I guess I might've been expecting too much, but nice to know it's close enough at least
I think the Model J would really overpower the Area, so I would go for the Ultra Jazz. Based on your post, it seems like a Model J neck, Ultra Jazz bridge combo is the way to go with Dimarzio pickups.
Sounds like a good combo, I might go with this
Dimarzio does offer a 21 day exchange policy. I don’t know how easy it would be to take advantage of in Singapore, but it’s there.
Wow really? Hadn't heard about this, I should ask the music stores in my area, thanks for the heads-up
 
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I love two model .J's in a jazz. My preferred p/u's
I have a model j on my pj bass. Its
Very thick sounding. For the neck position, I personally would be looking for something brighter
Thanks for the input guys, could you describe your experience with the Model J as a bridge pickup? I'd probably go for a Model J pair if I was purely into my alternative rock stuff, but unfortunately I think when it comes to my other genres, I would miss the "Jaco" bridge tone too much and the Model J bridge doesn't seem likely to offer that tone; still, I guess it's best to keep my options open
 
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1) I've been wanting for a while to get a thicker- and punchier-sounding neck pickup, something with a Precision-like tone but in a Jazz single coil size. I've heard some people claim that the Model J sounds similar to a Precision: Exactly how true is this?

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This is not true at all, I wish it were. I have the Model Js in my Jazz bass. I much prefer the jazz bass shape and feel but I'm always going back to my P bass for the tone.

I have a model j on my pj bass. Its
Very thick sounding. For the neck position, I personally would be looking for something brighter

I agree - dark and thick sounding. I'm also looking for something a bit brighter.

On the plus side those the Model Js are dead quiet. No hum or buzz at all.
 
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Oh sorry, Neck. You have a PJ so you were probably asking about the bridge PU.
Oh actually it's @jellymax who has the PJ bass, he was kindly describing his Model J bridge PU as a reference, whereas I'm the full Jazz guy who was originally asking about the Model J neck in the OP

The "dark and thick sounding" you mentioned is what I'm intending to achieve in the neck and and have something brighter in the bridge as a contrast, I guess my wording might've confused you guys, apologies
 
The "dark and thick sounding" you mentioned is what I'm intending to achieve in the neck and and have something brighter in the bridge as a contrast
I think the Seymour Duncan STK-J2n Hot Stack might give you what you’re looking for in the neck position. The trick would be finding a brighter bridge pickup that will balance with the Hot Stack. The Seymour Duncan STK-J1b Classic Stack, or an Apollo bridge pickup might work.
 
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Something brighter in the bridge is possible, like the Apollo, but the neck will be louder. Generally, the louder th pickup is, the more mids and lows it will have (unless you add a preamp).
 
Take it from someone who has mixed and matched a whole lot of pickups. Including Dimarzios:

Mixing pickups is trial and error. Generally, a matched set is going to sound good, if not great.

Try a matching set of Model J, first. Try them individually wired for series and parallel.

If you don't like the bridge tone, then go looking to mix something else for the bridge. And be prepared to try a few, before you find something which mixes well AND gives you the tone which you are looking for.
 
I think the Seymour Duncan STK-J2n Hot Stack might give you what you’re looking for in the neck position. The trick would be finding a brighter bridge pickup that will balance with the Hot Stack.
Sounds like another option to look into, thanks

an Apollo bridge pickup might work
Something brighter in the bridge is possible, like the Apollo, but the neck will be louder
Funnily enough, the Apollo was one of the options I considered for the longest time; only issues were the price (probably double that of the DiMarzios) and availability (can't find it anywhere locally so I might have to order online if I do go with it, and that's risky as it is)

Generally, the louder th pickup is, the more mids and lows it will have (unless you add a preamp).
Will adding a preamp really be necessary? I'm a passive guy, don't like the artificial sound of active basses, plus I'm enjoying my vintage stacked pots too much

Try a matching set of Model J, first. Try them individually wired for series and parallel.

If you don't like the bridge tone, then go looking to mix something else for the bridge. And be prepared to try a few, before you find something which mixes well AND gives you the tone which you are looking for.
That's another thing I'm afraid of, spending unnecessarily lmao. Like if I get a Model J set and I like the neck but not the bridge, it could take a long time to sell the bridge. I understand it's a process that'll definitely involve trial and error, but I already did the exact same thing on my Telecaster in the past (went through a few different neck pickups before finding one I really liked, and then took a long time to sell off the ones I didn't like), just trying to avoid doing the same thing on my Jazz Bass
 
That's another thing I'm afraid of, spending unnecessarily lmao. Like if I get a Model J set and I like the neck but not the bridge, it could take a long time to sell the bridge. I understand it's a process that'll definitely involve trial and error, but I already did the exact same thing on my Telecaster in the past (went through a few different neck pickups before finding one I really liked, and then took a long time to sell off the ones I didn't like), just trying to avoid doing the same thing on my Jazz Bass
Well, I can say that both the Model J and Ultra Jazz are very good pickups. And Dimarzio is very affordable. So if you are looking to mix, maybe start there.

*also, these pickups are prevalent enough, you can likely find them used. Especially Model J.
 
Bridge J pickups are not really sensing a lot of string vibration compared to the other pickup- so if the other pickup is pretty hot, it makes balance a little harder.
 
Bridge J pickups are not really sensing a lot of string vibration compared to the other pickup- so if the other pickup is pretty hot, it makes balance a little harder.
Yeah I do understand that, having been using my neck and bridge pickups individually for different purposes the whole time anyway, though I guess even if I don't use them together much, it's ultimately best to get a matching set of pickups to balance the overall output; now the question is whether to get an Area J set or an Ultra Jazz set (or if I can find one at a good price, possibly an Apollo set?)

Btw, I forgot to mention at the start that I'm using Sadowsky Blue Label Flatwounds (just a preference I have for old-school tones, nothing against roundwounds), so does that mean I should get brighter-sounding pickups if I want to vary the tone just a little more?