Quick Temple Audio 4 way Jack Patch question

[MGR]

Just got one of these pedalboards and read somewhere here that unless you connect the patch cables correctly to the 4 way jack patch one can run the risk of shorting out a pedal. So my question is basically what is the correct way?

My basic assumption is that I

a) Connect my bass to an input with a red nut.

b) Then connect that same patch's output (black nut) to the input of my first pedal.

b) Then my last pedal's output goes into a patch's input, but this time on the "inside" or "underside" of the pedalboard (the black nut), and then the cable to the amplifier comes out of that same "outside" (red nut) patch to the amp. Hopefully the way I've worded this makes sense.

I'd just take a chance on figuring it out myself, but I'm asking only because of the word of warning on another thread I read here. Thanks!

 

[CharlieC]

Here's a link to my original post on this:

NPB: Temple Audio Design Duo 17

The color of the jack nuts (red/black) should not be your guide as those can vary by assembly, but instead, differentiate the sides when the module is installed as the "out-facing side" or the "in-facing side" (underneath the board.) Those orientations will not vary as when the module is assembled the jack strip inside can only fit one way.

Use of a multi-meter or continuity tester is recommended if you are unsure of what you are doing or if you first want to validate that your jacks are "normalized" (shorting) before cutting into them.

Cheers!

 

[MGR]

Here's a link to my original post on this:

NPB: Temple Audio Design Duo 17

The color of the jack nuts (red/black) should not be your guide as those can vary by assembly, but instead, differentiate the sides when the module is installed as the "out-facing side" or the "in-facing side" (underneath the board.) Those orientations will not vary as when the module is assembled the jack strip inside can only fit one way.

Use of a multi-meter or continuity tester is recommended if you are unsure of what you are doing or if you first want to validate that your jacks are "normalized" (shorting) before cutting into them.

Cheers!

Thanks. So it seems I got the order right (my reds are all outside and my blacks are all inside). But I just wonder why they designed it this way if it can potentially destroy a pedal. How does one avoid this potential without going into the PCB and doing the surgery you suggested? Say I'm finished with a gig and need to pack up. Do I unplug the last pedal's output cable (the one going to the "inside" jack) first? Or will turning off the my power supply first be the best solution?

 

[CharlieC]

Thanks. So it seems I got the order right (my reds are all outside and my blacks are all inside). But I just wonder why they designed it this way if it can potentially destroy a pedal. How does one avoid this potential without going into the PCB and doing the surgery you suggested? Say I'm finished with a gig and need to pack up. Do I unplug the last pedal's output cable (the one going to the "inside" jack) first? Or will turning off the my power supply first be the best solution?

To avoid a shorting condition on the jack used as your pedal board output, simply ensure that a cable is plugged into it on the out-facing side at all times when the pedals are powered on.

Should you accidentally not do so, there is a good chance no permanent damage will occur, but just know that not all pedals and situations are the same.

 

[Kijuer]

Ok help me out. i was planning to create a pretty simple routing but I am afraid ins and outs are not facing the same side each:

1- My input signal comes from a wireless unit so I would not use an input jack; which one do I use for the output?
2 - I use the Mesa M9 footswitch. TRS cable from pedal to one "in" of the patch module, then relative "out" to the amp's footswitch input.

Which one is which???
A drawing would be extremely helpful, I'm not kidding LOL

 

[derekale]

To avoid a shorting condition on the jack used as your pedal board output, simply ensure that a cable is plugged into it on the out-facing side at all times when the pedals are powered on.

Should you accidentally not do so, there is a good chance no permanent damage will occur, but just know that not all pedals and situations are the same.

And if I use it only as an output? There is no shorting condition, right?

 

[derekale]

Hi, I have a question.
In situations 1 and 2 the DI output of my MXR M81 works Aldo with pedal turned off.
In the last, it only works with the pedal on, with the pedal off the DI is muted. The same thing happened to me with the Palmer Pocket Bass ... what can it depend on?