RE: Jaco Pastorius Respectful Quotes (help?)

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Hi folks,

I am looking for some positive Jaco Pastorius quotes from world class players please (eg. Zawinul, Stanley Clarke, John Scofield, etc). I used to own the Biography book but I lost it somewhere. I remember that having a few pages at the rear providing such quotations. I wondered if there was a site which had a page listing a handful of reliable quotes (and their respective sources) please?

I apologise if this thread has not been placed in the correct forum. Moderators please feel free to move to a more appropriate place if necessary.

As always, many thanks in advance for any kind help offered.

Best,

Paul David Seaman (UK)
 
I am looking for some positive Jaco Pastorius quotes from world class players please (eg. Zawinul, Stanley Clarke, John Scofield, etc).

If a straight GiYF search gives too much noise, search <X on Pastorius>

For example, "Scofield on Pastorius" leads you here. I also tried <Zawinul on Pastorius> and <Stanley Clarke on Pastorius>. Again, immediate winners. I didn't try <etc on Pastorius>, but you can take it from here.
 
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Weatherreportdiscography.org
Try this site. You can click on each album for an in-depth description of the recording process. If you click on Black Market, I guarantee you'll find a version of the initial meeting between Joe and Jaco.
May I ask what you need the quotes for? I ask because you said yourself that you lost the book, implying that "that's that". If there's no pressure, you could get a new one. If you need the quotes for a study paper (or article or whatever), linking to an online resource is not always the best way to go.
Talking about books, there's also Brian Glasser's In a Silent Way about Joe Zawinul, Footprints by Michelle Mercer and No Beethoven by Peter Erskine. Both outstanding reads, and with plenty of positive things to say about Jaco. Then there's The Early Years set and a brand new documentary as well.
 
Hi Middlebit,

I appreciate your help here.

I lent many of my biographies to a student friend about 20 x years ago (he was writing a dissertation on "Jazz/Drugs") and he never returned them (after graduating!). I new all those books had books had 100's of usable quotes but I am not prepared to re0buy them all.

You may or may not have seen my other couple of threads, but I have been putting together an essay for a short college course I am doing.

I was aware of the Erskine book, but not the others thanks.

Ta,

Paul
 
. . . and these are the ones I have found and using so far thanks. I may just add a couple more.


  • “I love ‘Heavy Weather also. The combination of Jaco along with Wayne Shorter and Joe Zawinul is unbelievable”’.
(Marcus Miller - ‘Perspectives On Jaco’ [2002]).


  • “He'd say, ‘I'm the baddest. I'm not braggin', I'm just telling the truth!’ - And I'd give him that!”
Joni Mitchell - ‘The Life And Death Of Jaco Pastorius’ [December 1987]).


  • “Everything I ever tried to do as a jazz musician, this guy could do, and really well. He moved effortlessly from jazz to funk, even classical.”
(John Scofield -’Pool Guitar’ [Interviewer:David Gerard [October 2012]).


On his (1989) album ‘Amandla’, Miles Davis dedicated (to Jaco) the Marcus Miller composition "Mr. Pastorius".
 
If you dig around you'll find a lot of great quotes from Pat Metheny like this:
Playing with Jaco Pastorius

When I left Kansas City, I had the opportunity to move to Florida. A guy who was a Dean of a college in Florida heard me play, and offered me a full scholarship to go to the University of Miami. This is certainly the happiest day of my parent’s life, because until then I had been flunking out of both high school and junior high. I was really only concerned about trying to become a good musician. The thought of me actually possibly turning out to be something other than that was exciting for them.

I went to the University of Miami for about four days, and realized I was functionally illiterate. There was no way I’d be able to fake my way through this, the way I did through high school. The fourth or fifth day I was there, I met Jaco Pastorius who was a bass player living in town. My first reaction upon hearing him was thinking, “Are there people like this everywhere? Is this normal? [Maybe] I should get on the bus and go back to Kansas City.”

Jaco had a willful – almost sabotage – mechanism that he would invoke. Whenever the music seemed to be moving one way, he would push it a different way for sometimes inscrutable reasons.

Jaco and I became very good friends. It turns out that we had similar missions in life, in terms of trying to expand the role of our instruments within this general realm of music. We ended up making a number of records together over the years, and were very close friends all the way through. There are some musicians you play with, and it’s really easy to play with them. It’s almost like a magic carpet ride. Jaco was not that at all. He was actually somebody, I would say, that was very difficult to play with. He had a huge presence in every way, and this is before he was this iconic figure that he has become. He had a willful – almost sabotage – mechanism that he would invoke. Whenever the music seemed to be moving one way, he would push it a different way for sometimes inscrutable reasons.

At the same time, he was an incredible musician and had amazing responses to things that I would play and tunes that I would write. The way that he and I played together I can’t say that I’ve really heard anything quite like that since. I’ve never experienced that with anybody. We had a volatile relationship actually. I think maybe I was one of the few people along the way who would really yell at him. I would say, “Man, do this, do that.” Everybody was mostly so in awe of his facility on the instrument – which was pretty staggering – but I wasn’t thinking about that. I was thinking more like, “This tune needs this.” I was more thinking about what the music was asking for, and that we were both participants in that. That was always the primary thing.
 
Thanks Jerry,

Even though I can't stand Metheny, that was really helpful and I shall include one of his quotes.

I knew of two bass players who had some lessons of Jaco in his Florida home. One said he was the nicest and most encouraging teacher he had. And the other said he was miserable, hungover and sarcastic! But we can all appreciate Jaco suffered mental health issues and so maybe these contrasting encounters where a result of this.

Cheers,

Paul
 
The two people who really seemed to get Jaco and put it into words was Metheny and Peter Erskine. Erskine's book is a treasure trove of Jaco insight, plus a great read as was his liner notes for the live Weather Report box that came out late last year. I was looking for Metheny's take on Jaco's swing feel, but ran out of time. To paraphrase, he said nobody could swing on electric bass like Jaco.
 
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Hello Jerry,

I agree, Jaco's swing playing and choice of notes was out of this world!

Incidentally, I was listening to "Two Lines" on one of those unreleased sets and Victor Baileys lines are something else (eg. the "Weather Report" quotes he puts in along side double-stopping!).

Ta,

Paul
 
Just finished the updated, expanded version of Jaco's bio. Having read the first edition, I'd highly recommend the new one. A much deeper portrait. I had tears in my eyes reading about his death this time through, mostly I think because the journey the book takes you through to get there is so vivid and heartbreaking.

/rick
 
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Hi again guys,

Thanks for the quote pointers.

I found some more over the weekend by the following Critics/Reviewers:

Bon Johnson - Record Review

Greg Armbruster - Keyboard

Pat Jordan - Gentleman's Quarterly​

But I am trying to find out some BACKGROUND on these three guys please (ie. DOB / birthplace, and all that). I was looking on Wiki also but could not seem to locate anything either? I assume these tree are well respected Journalists (otherwise they would not ne interviewing 'Weather Report'!).

Best,

Paul