set up when purchasing a cheap bass?

I’ve only bought ONE new bass or guitar in my life; one of the first Dano Longhorn reissues around ’97 when they were selling for $189 including a ‘tweed’ gig bag and free shipping….

As this was a cross country purchase, I’d never know if they spent an hour setting it up as best possible (no truss rod adjustment, a single slab of wood as your bridge “saddles” etc.) But it played as well as any original Longhorn I’ve ever played, and that’s a few dozen. And while the fit and finish was not up to Jerry Jones standards, I wouldn’t hesitate to grab mine for a gig or session - I never remember anyone saying “nice bass, too bad it doesn’t sound as good as aa JJ Longhorn”.

Anyway, tomorrow I’m buying a Classic Vibe 50s P-bass, in large part because after nearly 20 years, I still hit some major clams with the short scale Dano. My hands have been playing 34” scale basses since I traded from my original EB3 to a ‘70 Jazz. If 19 years with the Dano hasn’t given me the ability to switch between scale lengths at will, it aint gonna happen. So a new Squier will look cool, should help end my frequent clams, and the price is nice. But as a newcomer to buying a new bass from a store, particularly a local store, what do you get as part of the deal?

They claim to be making around $30 on the deal and are doing it to build a relationship with a local musician who does not purchase from either of the modern Wal*Mart type music stores. If that is even partly true, would you expect any kind of setup on a new “made in China” squier? Or do they hand you the cardboard box with your name on the side and wish you luck? Or do they open the box, and spend 2 or 3 times that $30 number (remember this is LA where $15 is the minimum hourly wage to make French fries; I hope a good guitar tech is making a bit more than that) to perform the level of setup that even used guitars got prior to leaving the store.

Obviously, I’ll ask when I go in to close the deal tomorrow, but I’m curious what kinds of experiences are common to guys buying low cost instruments from local stores? Do you get a nice “thank you” and a sealed cardboard box or does the local shop owner spend the the large amounts of downtime on a typical weekday fiddling aournnd with your bass, setting it up and tweaking it until there really isn’t much more that can be done. That was my experience when I used to purchase lots of used guitars back in the 70s / 80s, But has the post-sale set-up become another profit center, like an extended warranty??
 
All depends on the store. Some local stores are really stingy, some will do a setup if you ask them and include it in the purchase. It wouldn't hurt to ask, but if the bass isn't playable out of the box definitely bring that to the store's attention.
 
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I would ask them to set it up. You might get it home and change it, but I think that they should include a setup. Not your fault if they undersold the bass. They are trying to build a relationship, right?
 
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When I did music retail back in the day, I was only too happy to set up the guitar or bass to make the customer happy.

I always had a few essential setup tools in the pockets of my cargo pants, and I could bang out a truss rod adjustment, saddle height, tuning and intonation in a few minutes.

It was not a big deal to me, and my bosses didn't like it too much at some places I worked, but I did have the lowest product return rates, so that was cool.

Great sounding and playing instruments usually stay sold. And that builds relationships, imho.
 
Doesn't hurt to ask. Also it wouldn't hurt to read up or watch some youtube videos on setups. It's not that difficult to do basic setups. Also reading your post it seems that maybe your under the impression your Longhorn doesn't have a trussrod, when in fact it does, you just need to remove the neck to adjust it. I've actually adjusted my Granddaughters by detuning the strings a bit and removing the neck bolts and carefully lifting the neck. Then make the truss adjustment and put it all back together, tune up and check it. And hopefully getting it right the first time so I don't have to do it again! Oh and enjoy your new bass, the Squier CV basses are excellent quality instruments!
 
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I've been gassing for a Classic Vibe 50's reissue myself for awhile now. Actually I'm a bit more interested in the Mike Dirnt version (primarily due to color choices - not a big fan of the off-white with white PG plus I think I'll like the normal P pickup better), however at $299 retail what I expect to get is an instrument that at a minimum needs to go to a luthier to finish out the fret work and be set up properly. Which is likely another $100+ onto the final price, plus whatever a case costs (gotta have a case). Worth it IF it comes out well but seems kinda a crap shoot which is why I haven't pulled the trigger yet.

Please let us know what you think of the bass once you get a little experience. I've posted on several threads looking for someone with some hands on experience with the Squier 50's P reissues, still waiting for some feedback. Anything you can offer would be appreciated.
 
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Please let us know what you think of the bass once you get a little experience. I've posted on several threads looking for someone with some hands on experience with the Squier 50's P reissues, still waiting for some feedback. Anything you can offer would be appreciated.

Will do - bass will either arrive from Fender today or Monday (in which I gotta wait the whole weekend.....) My big concern is that I am a snob, but only due to the luck of timing; upgraded from a '70 Jazz with a strong rise starting at about the 16th fret. Sold it for $450 and and bought a '64 PBass from Gruhn the same week for $600. What just kills me is that those 69-80 boat anchor basses that had us scrounging around for old basses are now selling for crazy cash. Sorry, but if I had ten grand to spend, I''d rather have one '63 than three '71s - who are the people paying $3k (and more for these basses?) In my case, I've already got two of the nice ones (that now cost 20 to 30 times what they sold for new...???) so I need something the dog can chew on or I can use to stop a bar fight. And it cost just about what my two pre-CBS basses did when new! Ain't inflation grand? if you live long enough.....
 
You can always try it out with one of the amps for five minutes or so and then bring it up to the counter and say: "Sorry, this thing isn't even set up properly."

I was at GC the week before Christmas two years ago and an elderly couple asked me about a Squire Jazz bass hanging on the wall they wanted to buy for their grandson. I told them it was a very nice bass for the price but it needed the fret edges filed down. They brought it to the attention of one of the sales clerks and he handed it to the tech who started the job right then and there.
So, yes, some people do try to do it right.
 
For me, every bass I've ever bought has needed its setup tweaked either a little or a lot. I'd suggest to all players to learn to do it themselves. It's really not hard to do. Before about 3 1/2 years ago, I had never even touched a bass. With a couple of months of getting my first bass and learning to play, I was doing my own setups. I can't imagine anyone doing a better job than me because I know the way I like them set up.
 
I can set one up no problem but I don't know squat about fixing shoddy fret work and honestly don't have the time to screw with it. Some things are better done by professionals (drywall and fretwork being a couple...). IMO it sucks that anyone even builds then sells an instrument that needs more fretwork done to it before it's playable. And yeah I understand the "you get what you pay for" thing. If Fender/Squier sold a 50's CV in a color that was worth a crap and that didn't need to be worked on out of the box I'd already have one and I'd be willing to pay a bit more for it.
 
It all depends on the store.

I have bought four basses from a local Mom&Pop. The lowest priced was a Squier VM SS Jag and they even gave that a set up.

If GC offered me a free set up, I'd just as soon let them chuck it into a wood chipper. I don't trust them.
 
I think a retailer selling any bass regardless of price should deliver it in playing condition, so yes a set up should be included.

Pretty much this. Failing to set up basses properly is just poor salesmanship if nothing else; you should always make your products seems as good as possible. From personal experience in the UK, small local stores have much better service than larger stores, partially because they know they really need repeat business. The small local music shop nearby has a superb tech that's always super-helpful, the PMT in the city are a bunch of snooty bastards. Even then though, PMT still manage to set up a guitar properly before selling it. I don't know about America, but over here that's just considered good practice.
 
the short reply before the weekend errands resume: attached photo of the only two instruments that I have ever purchased new: the 97 (?) longhorn and the 2016 CV 50s bass: The only thing that bugs me about the appearance of the CV is that damn sticker on the pickguard - two choices, see if I can remove it without causing too much damage to pickguard, or cover it with something more appropriate, like a Lemmy sticker! Love the single coil, it is perfectly placed for my right hand anchor position. Not two concerned about the controls, the volume will only get used to turn off when plugging in/out and will be full up otherwise. Tone will never move from full off. Squire logo ain't too bad, AND it is followed by "Fender Precision Bass" the three most important words in the english language. Truss rud adjustment at "wrong" end will be weird, but I'll leave that to tech. I've also NEVER owned bass (or guitar) with skunk stripe. Overall fit and finish is nicer than some $1k MIA Fenders I've pulled down from the wall at GC. And while I was a bit worried about the "advanced" bridge, it just seems like what all Fender bass bridges should have been like circa 1960. Playing reports to follow.

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I elected to not go for the discount setup ($40, instead of $65, assume free for basses that cost real money....) as I will change to flats, will want truss rod adjusted and strings lowered just a bit (every set up I've ever had done by someone I have not worked with previously has been WAY too low) - anyway, I decided to live with the bass for 1 or 2 weeks and then have set up done; when I know what I don't like about bass.
 
There is most likely a very thin protective plastic film covering the entire pick guard that the sticker on, peal it of carefully and the sticker will come off with it. You may have to loosen the pick guard and thumb rest screws to get all of the plastic off.
 
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Hmmm...
The sticker's meant to come off.
The truss rod will adjust like any other, regardless of what end of the neck it's on. Righty tighty, lefty loosey.
As for using that particular P bass single coil pickup as a thumb rest...do some research. Some are a solid bobbin. Others are just a single plate top spacer and can be delicate. In either case, they aren't a covered pickup.

Turning the bass volume all the way down will do nothing to prevent ear splitting noise when plugging or unplugging the bass. Turn the amp's volume down, or turn the amp off, or invest in a cable with a circuit breaker, or unplug from the amp end. My Boss TU3 is great for muting the line, either when I'm tuning, or unplugging, or just leaving everything plugged in and turned on when going to the bar. One "stomp" and she's dead.
 
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Turning the bass volume all the way down will do nothing to prevent ear splitting noise when plugging or unplugging the bass. Turn the amp's volume down, or turn the amp off, or invest in a cable with a circuit breaker, or unplug from the amp end. My Boss TU3 is great for muting the line, either when I'm tuning, or unplugging, or just leaving everything plugged in and turned on when going to the bar. One "stomp" and she's dead.

I get this, the amp volume goes down too, but after plugged in, the amp volume comes up and lastly, the bass volume comes back. shut down works in reverse, just my methods, works for me. (I don't have ANY pedals, tuners, etc. in between bass and amp head)
 
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here is most likely a very thin protective plastic film covering the entire pick guard that the sticker on, peal it of carefully and the sticker will come off with it. You may have to loosen the pick guard and thumb rest screws to get all of the plastic off.

Today is first time I've had chance to look at bass in day light. As protective film's go, this one blends in really well; well enough that I have seen both CV Strats and 50s CV bass played on stage with sticker on. Looks like 9 pickgurad screws and two for thumb-rest (which of course, is on wrong side for thumb use...)
 
always ask for a set up. A low cost guitar MIGHT (as you can read might as in capital letters) have a really bad fret job. A set up will reveal that and you'll know what kind of cheap bass you are dealing with. Quite frankly the thought of having to get a fret job keeps me from buying really cheap instruments lately. This isn't to say that cheap equal bad and unplayable. But cheap ones tend to be more difficult, at least for me.