Single Coil vs Double Coil (with coil split)

I've recently tried a fodera monarch standard classic with dual coil seymour duncan pickups and I really prefer the sound the bass produces with coil split than a jazz bass with "true" single coils, I find the tone to be much warmer and punchier... Would a single coil version of those pickups sound even better than that?
 
Well, which Jazz bass did you compare them to? There are so many J pickups out there, it's hard to generalize. It's also hard to say if YOU would prefer the sound of Fodera Duncan Js to their duals split ;) But chances are that their J pickup will sound more like other J pickups, so perhaps less to your liking?

My guess would be that to get that sound in a J pickup, you might want an underwound J pickup. That's really a guess, based on some vague recollection about reading on Fodera Duncan duals... Or simply talk to folks at SD whether they can wind you a pair of J's based on their Fodera Duncan duals split. I'm not sure if they can do that, but worth talking to them...
 
Well, which Jazz bass did you compare them to? There are so many J pickups out there, it's hard to generalize. It's also hard to say if YOU would prefer the sound of Fodera Duncan Js to their duals split ;) But chances are that their J pickup will sound more like other J pickups, so perhaps less to your liking?

My guess would be that to get that sound in a J pickup, you might want an underwound J pickup. That's really a guess, based on some vague recollection about reading on Fodera Duncan duals... Or simply talk to folks at SD whether they can wind you a pair of J's based on their Fodera Duncan duals split. I'm not sure if they can do that, but worth talking to them...
I already tried to ask them, but it's been more than a month and they haven't replied :(
 
Well, which Jazz bass did you compare them to? There are so many J pickups out there, it's hard to generalize. It's also hard to say if YOU would prefer the sound of Fodera Duncan Js to their duals split ;) But chances are that their J pickup will sound more like other J pickups, so perhaps less to your liking?

My guess would be that to get that sound in a J pickup, you might want an underwound J pickup. That's really a guess, based on some vague recollection about reading on Fodera Duncan duals... Or simply talk to folks at SD whether they can wind you a pair of J's based on their Fodera Duncan duals split. I'm not sure if they can do that, but worth talking to them...
I compared it to a fender jazz with same woods
 
Well, the sound of that bass just isn't the pickups, it is the preamp and the overall design of the bass (one of the reasons it costs $5k). The pickups are designed with Fodera, so they are not available outside of one of their instruments. I'd contact the Custom Shop (either call or send a message) to see what they are allowed to build and what form factor you need. Again, the sound of those basses have a lot to do with the preamp and overall construction of the bass.
 
Well, the sound of that bass just isn't the pickups, it is the preamp and the overall design of the bass (one of the reasons it costs $5k). The pickups are designed with Fodera, so they are not available outside of one of their instruments. I'd contact the Custom Shop (either call or send a message) to see what they are allowed to build and what form factor you need. Again, the sound of those basses have a lot to do with the preamp and overall construction of the bass.
I tested the bass with eq off, the shape of the instrument is based on a p bass so it should make very little difference
 
I tested the bass with eq off, the shape of the instrument is based on a p bass so it should make very little difference

Not the shape itself, but the overall construction and build quality. That said, unless it was a bad Fender J you tried, I'd say these differences probably weren't great. But maybe they were? Hard to say... Two other things that could've accounted for some of the difference: strings and setup (chiefly pickup height). I'm assuming they were both 34" scale, but that's another factor that could influence the sound... And finally, all the little factors also interact, so I'd hesitate to draw any firm conclusions/generalizations from comparing two instruments.

I take back my earlier comment that you might want underwound J pickups. That was faulty memory and poor logic on my part.

Perhaps I'd ask a different question - what exactly are you trying to do? Are you trying to learn something new, or is there a specific bass you want to modify, or something else? That may get us from pointless guessing to constructive suggestions...
 
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Not the shape itself, but the overall construction and build quality. That said, unless it was a bad Fender J you tried, I'd say these differences probably weren't great. But maybe they were? Hard to say... Two other things that could've accounted for some of the difference: strings and setup (chiefly pickup height). I'm assuming they were both 34" scale, but that's another factor that could influence the sound... And finally, all the little factors also interact, so I'd hesitate to draw any firm conclusions/generalizations from comparing two instruments.

I take back my earlier comment that you might want underwound J pickups. That was faulty memory and poor logic on my part.

Perhaps I'd ask a different question - what exactly are you trying to do? Are you trying to learn something new, or is there a specific bass you want to modify, or something else? That may get us from pointless guessing to constructive suggestions...
It would be for when (hopefully) I'll have the money to buy a fodera... I want to be sure before even saving money
 
That a big investment; I'd suggest trying before buying, just to be sure. But from a physical construction standpoint, soapbars seem to be most universally sized - you can fit a J pickup inside one. So if you cannot try before buying, get one with soapbars. Then you can "audition" different pickup styles without modifications to the bass itself.