Sterling by Music Man Ray5 HH "Limited Edition" Review, for the impatient

Mar 25, 2002
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(No fluff, no filler, no unboxing videos, no rambling, no annoying slap demos.)

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"Limited Edition" means it comes in "Ruby Red Burst Satin." It's otherwise identical to the other Ray5 HH models. Note that the Ray35 is a different model entirely, and over twice as expensive!

Price: $350 on sale, regularly $450.

Unboxing: There is no case candy or even a warranty card, just a tiny Ziploc with two Allen wrenches. Make sure you find it before you throw away the packaging!

Finish: I found no finish flaws. Fretboard isn't rolled, but the fret ends aren't sharp or protruding. The body is darker than the pictures. It's mostly satin black, with a small patch in the middle that's more the color of the "Walnut Stain" model than "Ruby Red". The entire bass is satin finish, including the neck. The fretboard is a nice-looking slab of jatoba, dark but still reddish, that goes well with the body. The strings sit centered on the neck and the pickups.

Setup: Pretty good out of the box for an Indonesian bass. I had to raise the low B, but intonation wasn't bad. Neck relief was perfect. Action was low for the price point. No high frets. Better than I usually see at this price.

Strings: The stock strings are awful. The top two strings sound completely different than the bottom three, and they have the abrasive feel of the cheap Chinese strings you get off Aliexpress. Plan on changing them right away. I hope these aren't real Slinkys, or Ernie Ball has a QC problem!

Feel: The neck is comfortable and fast, and the satin finish feels great in your hand. The tuners are surprisingly smooth for open-gear. It's one of my favorite bass necks regardless of price. The body is contoured, not the retro slab. Weighs 10 pounds despite being made of basswood -- but it's a Stingray, and Stingrays are big and heavy. Get a good strap. It feels like a Stingray, not a cheap clone.

Sound: Mostly like a real USA Stingray, but the ceramic pickups have slightly less crispness and clarity in the high end, which also makes them less nasal. It sounds like they might be a bit hotter, though the preamp makes it hard to tell. You don't need to push them right up next to the strings to get high output. The 2-band preamp does exactly what you expect to the sound. It comes with a 9V battery already installed, but it's not even alkaline so it probably won't last very long. Has the usual dead spot at the 5th fret on the G string, but so do the USA ones.

Other differences from a real USA Stingray: The bridge has narrower string spacing. I measure it at exactly 16mm, compared to a USA model at 17.5mm. This means the strings are closer together, but the B and G aren't falling off the outside of the neck like they are on every USA Stingray I've ever played. I think this is an improvement. Others might hate it because it's different.

The tighter spacing also means that it'll be difficult to replace the pickups, since the pole piece spacing will probably be for a USA Stingray and wrong for this bass. You'd probably need to replace the bridge along with the pickups. But this is still better than the 4-string Sterling Stingrays, all of which simply use pickups with the wrong spacing!

The tighter spacing doesn't mean a smaller pickup housing, so the pickups stick out well on each side of the strings compared to a USA Stingray, making them an excellent built-in ramp for fingerstyle.

Conclusion: It's a solid, well-built instrument, priced fairly for what it is. It's different in a couple key ways from a USA Stingray, which I like but many will probably dislike, and it's a lot darker than "Ruby Red". If you want the original string spacing and pickups, you need to spend a lot more money on the USA version. But if you want something that's definitely Stingray-ish but not quite as nasal or cutting (it's a fine distinction, but definitely exists), and has 16mm string spacing, the Ray5 HH is an improvement over the original.

I hope this helps some people decide if they should buy one!
 
I jumped on that one and ordered it, too.
It's a coin toss between the $299 StingyRay 5 and the Harley Benton 5 that everyone loved on YouTube a couple years ago.
I do have to admit the naming conventions are very irritating to me - Ray5, Ray35, Sterling, SUB, etc.
But if it delivers at $299 then that is a great deal for a 5 string I don't have to fuss over.
We'll see how it goes. Fingers crossed.
 
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I jumped on that one and ordered it, too.
It's a coin toss between the $299 StingyRay 5 and the Harley Benton 5 that everyone loved on YouTube a couple years ago.
I do have to admit the naming conventions are very irritating to me - Ray5, Ray35, Sterling, SUB, etc.
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The naming was driving me nuts too, even with the American models. I had no idea what a "Special" was. They sound tempting though!

I checked out the Harley Benton Ray on their website and those also sound interesting.
 
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The naming was driving me nuts too, even with the American models. I had no idea what a "Special" was. They sound tempting though!

I checked out the Harley Benton Ray on their website and those also sound interesting.
Don't forget Ball Family Reserve Limited! I bet that actually means something!

Not to tease anyone, but the "industry" has gotten a little jumbled with all the mid-market branding that it makes it hard for the core users to make a decision over what to try, other than assuming price tag accurately reflects value. Spector, Fender, etc.

Out of my own arsenal, my favorite 4 string is a beat up Fernandes P-bass I found in the garbage of my building when I lived in Japan. It's hard to beat free and awesome but hopefully we can come close with the StingyRay 5.

Looks like we have a pretty good flash mob here to trade notes. Mine gets here tomorrow.
 
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Did any of you get emails wanting to ship the bass from a Guitar Center in non-original packaging? I declined the first one, saying I wanted NIB, and then I got another email this morning offering to ship from another GC. Kind of pissed me off so I called MF and they said it should ship from MF today. I was hoping to use it on a gig this weekend but I doubt it'll get here in time.
 
Did any of you get emails wanting to ship the bass from a Guitar Center in non-original packaging? I declined the first one, saying I wanted NIB, and then I got another email this morning offering to ship from another GC. Kind of pissed me off so I called MF and they said it should ship from MF today. I was hoping to use it on a gig this weekend but I doubt it'll get here in time.
No, but it's kind of cool that they would be receptive to your feedback about the packaging on an item they're trying to blow out.
In full transparency, they do list on their site that shipping can ultimately take up to 8 days.
Just got mine.