Uptuned Bass Players Esoteric Society -^@^-[U.B.P.E.S]-^@^- A Higher State of Tuning

I tune my bass(es) Norm/Up/Down

  • Up (any tuning higher than normal)

    Votes: 6 42.9%
  • Normal (4 string E standard/5-6 string B standard)

    Votes: 10 71.4%
  • Down (any tuning lower than normal)

    Votes: 7 50.0%

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    14

NoiseNinja

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So since my 28.6" scale main Ibanez Mikro Bass is currently tuned to G standard tuning, as in 3 half steps above regular 4 string bass E standard tuning, I thought I would start a thread for bass players who have one or more of their basses tuned up higher than what is considered the norm (that is basically E, all fourths, standard tuning for 4 string bass, and B, all fourths, standard tuning for 5 or 6 string bass).

That is weather we are talking about a 4 string one octave higher E standard piccolo tuning, a 5 string bass tuned E to C, a 6 string tuned E to F or E to E, a typical 4 string A or B standard, that is A to C/B to D, baritone tuning, an all fifths C to A cello tuning, or more esoteric variants of utilizing higher than regular tuning on your bass, be it on a sub short scale (bellow 30" scale length), regular short scale bass (around 30" scale length), or regular full 34" scale length bass.


To start out the discussion :

I had used an F# standard tuning (that 2 half steps above regular 4 string E standard tuning), which has actually traditionally been used in classical music for upright bass solo pieces, for my 28.6" scale Ibanez Mikro Bass for quite a while, using a gauge .090 - .072 - .054 - .040 string set, composed of single D'Addario XL nickle plated roundwound steel core strings, the gauge .072 and .054 string actually being guitar strings threaded through the cut off ball end of old bass strings to be able to sit in the bass bridge, but then recently decided to re-string my Mikro with gauge .080 - .060 - .045 - .034 strings to tune it one half step further up to G standard tuning (why is explained following).

It does make it lean a bit more in the 4 string baritone guitar than bass direction, but there is still plenty of bottom end to fill out the sonic space as a bass instrument, and it seems to work better for the kind of bass/baritone/guitar crossover riff writing/playing style that I currently use it for in a drums and bass duo, where I also have my signal run through an always on 1 octave up effect, to give an effect somewhat similar to that of an 8 string bass (with pairs of respectively bass and octave strings).

This way chords work pretty much regardless of where I fret them on the fretboard without getting too muddy, and that thuddy, stacatto and somewhat dead, effect of playing the thickest string above the 12th fret, due to the reduced flexibility of the string caused by the shorter vibrating length of the Mikro's short scale length as you approach the upper end of the fretboard, has totally been eliminated with the lower tension and thinner gauge .080 low G string, which wasn't quite the case with the previously installed gauge .090 low F# string, also the gauge .034 high A# string seems to still just exactly have enough mass to be perfectly snappy and full sounding, like a real bass string, and not thin or anemic in any way, like as if it had been a guitar string.

All together basically resulting in a tone that now sounds clear and vibrant no matter what I play at the entire range of the fretboard, while still having that full tonal quality with plenty of punch and snap typical of a bass guitar.

Ironically the tone of my Mikro in some ways is now closer to what you would expect from a regular 34" scale bass, given the richer harmonic content of the thinner gauge strings, than it ever was before.


Here is how my lowly, but very much beloved, Mikro Bass looks (though back when this photo was shot it was still equipped with the gauge .090 - .072 - .054 - .040 strings and tuned to F# standard tuning) :
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Note that this is not a club per see, so I won't issue out numbers, this thread is just meant as a place for discussing alternative higher tunings than what is considered the norm for bass, or simply just as a place for you to get a chance to wave your uptuned bass freak flag, should you feel such need.


 
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It does make it lean a bit more in the 4 string baritone guitar than bass direction, but there is still plenty of bottom end to fill out the sonic space as a bass instrument, and it seems to work better for the kind of bass/baritone/guitar crossover riff writing/playing style that I currently use it for in a drums and bass duo, where I also have my signal run through an always on 1 octave up effect, to give an effect somewhat similar to that of an 8 string bass (with pairs of respectively bass and octave strings).

Just out of curiosity, is your duo kind of a Royal Blood sort of thing? Mike Kerr makes that work really well with a short scale bass and an octaver.
 
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Just out of curiosity, is your duo kind of a Royal Blood sort of thing? Mike Kerr makes that work really well with a short scale bass and an octaver.

Well similar in that it's a bass and drums duo, that both makes use of a 1 octave up effect on the bass, and that both can be fit into the very broad overall genre of rock.

In just about every other aspect, not really all that similar.

For one Mike Keer also utilizes a 5th up pithshifter, and goes for more of a bass + distorted guitar kind of tone, as in sounding like 2 different individual instruments being played, where I go more for an 8 string bass, but with the octave strings slightly subdued, kind of tone, really more so being a matter of filling more sonic space but while still sounding like 1 single instrument than aiming to sound like 2 separate individual instruments, and beside the "clean" (really lightly overdriven) tone and high gain, fairly heavy, distortion and fuzz, I incorporate the use of more additional effects like modulation and delay as well, and applied to the whole combined bass+octave signal, again making it sound more like 1 single instrument covering a lot of sonic space, rather than 2 separate individual instruments.

Also where Royal Blood I guess could be fit under some kind of hard rock sub genre, the bass and drums duo I play bass in is more of a progressive rock influenced stoner/doom rock thing.

Finally we ponder on getting a third member to handle keys/organ/synth, which would really make it a trio and not a strict bass and drums duo anymore.
 
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I’ve been thinking about buying a MiKro with the intention of getting it as close to a 4 string baritone as possible so glad to have come across this thread - does anyone out there have any suggestions in regards to mods etc?

I was even thinking of trying baritone strings?
 
I've recently tuned my 5 strings half a step up to C|F|A#|D#|G# and it's been wonderful. A .130 at 34" or .125 on 35" feels/sounds great at C1.

1)Stiletto Studio 5 - 35" scale, EB Super Slinky set (.125 .095 .075 .060 .040)
2)C-5 GT - 35" scale, DR Hi Beams w/ .125
3)C-5 GT - 35" scale, D'Adarrio Pro Steel w/ .130 (was experimenting, meh)
4)GWB35 - 34" scale, GHS Superchrome flats or something.