YouTube experimenting with crackdown on ad blockers

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YouTube is blocking videos for users who block ads | PCWorld

In this test phase, users get a grace period of three videos before playback gets disabled. Only "select" users are getting this warning for now.

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At this point, it would probably be better for me to walk away from the Online All-of-It Social Media Swamp.

Between here and Drummerworld Forum, I'm good.
It looks like Twitter is experimenting with us non-verified accounts and limiting how much we can reply-post on the platform on a daily basis. I'm pseudo named on FB too, just to sell stuff on a regional gear site there and I follow some groups that post lovely pics of Raquel Welch & Sophia Loren era beauties.

TB is my only hardcore social media fix 'cause it's relative to something that I love to do. Plus, the info and play-performance practice and gear info really helps. ONLY PROBLEM: I want another P-Bass but don't need one.
 
I see an ad now and then on YouTube when I click a link on my mobile phone, not ever that I can remember on my Windows desktop. Then again, I watch maybe 7-8 short videos on YouTube a week.

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Well, after all this time I finally got hit with my first pop-up on YouTube regarding ad blockers. I've been using Adblock Plus for years and have mercifully not had to deal with ads on YouTube at all.

I personally think our ad-based economy is a scourge on civilization and I'm willing to do almost anything to avoid them. However, I understand that ads are the primary source of revenue for YouTube -- as well as television and radio stations, podcasts, etc. -- and that I'm essentially "freeloading" if I block them. I'd be happy to instead pay for a premium subscription (as I do on TalkBass) to avoid ads, but the current price for that on YouTube -- $13.95/month as of recently -- seems excessive given my frequency of use. Cut that in half and I'll sign up for life, but I don't think I should have to pay that much.

I'm curious how others are dealing with this while we wait for Adblock and others to figure out how to beat the new system.
 
Well, after all this time I finally got hit with my first pop-up on YouTube regarding ad blockers. I've been using Adblock Plus for years and have mercifully not had to deal with ads on YouTube at all.

I personally think our ad-based economy is a scourge on civilization and I'm willing to do almost anything to avoid them. However, I understand that ads are the primary source of revenue for YouTube -- as well as television and radio stations, podcasts, etc. -- and that I'm essentially "freeloading" if I block them. I'd be happy to instead pay for a premium subscription (as I do on TalkBass) to avoid ads, but the current price for that on YouTube -- $13.95/month as of recently -- seems excessive given my frequency of use. Cut that in half and I'll sign up for life, but I don't think I should have to pay that much.

I'm curious how others are dealing with this while we wait for Adblock and others to figure out how to beat the new system.
Five days ago they gave me, " You have three more videos to watch then you will be blocked if you do not turn off Adblock." after I ignored their warning that you just got for a few days.

It counted down, "Two left, turn off Adblock or you will be blocked."

Then one and I was blocked.

No more Youtube clicking for me. Oh well.
 
Five days ago they gave me, " You have three more videos to watch then you will be blocked if you do not turn off Adblock." after I ignored their warning that you just got for a few days.

It counted down, "Two left, turn off Adblock or you will be blocked."

Then one and I was blocked.

No more Youtube clicking for me. Oh well.
So, are you just not going to use YouTube anymore? That's not really an acceptable option for me: In addition to various random things, I usually spend an hour or two, several nights a week, watching concert videos on YouTube -- which I find to be much more enjoyable than attending live concerts these days. I don't want concerts videos to be interrupted by ads, but I also don't want to pay quite so much for a premium account nor stop watching these videos. Just not sure what to do....
 
Not sure either, will turn it off and give it a few days and see how the ads are tolerated.

There is a balance that most places/sites do not understand. One is good, five in a ten minute video or a site covered... NO!

But so many go for the more is better, as a result they will make more per click. They do not understand that they will eventually have less clicks or force a bypass like an adblock to make it tolerant.
 
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Well, after all this time I finally got hit with my first pop-up on YouTube regarding ad blockers. I've been using Adblock Plus for years and have mercifully not had to deal with ads on YouTube at all.

I personally think our ad-based economy is a scourge on civilization and I'm willing to do almost anything to avoid them. However, I understand that ads are the primary source of revenue for YouTube -- as well as television and radio stations, podcasts, etc. -- and that I'm essentially "freeloading" if I block them. I'd be happy to instead pay for a premium subscription (as I do on TalkBass) to avoid ads, but the current price for that on YouTube -- $13.95/month as of recently -- seems excessive given my frequency of use. Cut that in half and I'll sign up for life, but I don't think I should have to pay that much.

I'm curious how others are dealing with this while we wait for Adblock and others to figure out how to beat the new system.

Before the IT revolution, so many American companies earned treir profits via paid advertising.

Now that sharing information is basically free, these companies have had to find new ways to make money. Many of them changed to a paid prescription format.

But a lot of these companies failed to understand the reality of the new balance of power and believed (falsely) that they could simply charge whatever fee they wanted to and customers would have no choice but to pay it.

Look at Photobucket. They switched to a prescription format with an unreasonably high price tag ($99 per year for basic membership, $399 per year for premium) and there was an instant exodus of nearly all of their users.

We live in the "wild west" of information sharing on the internet. There are multitudes of different types of arms races going on between and among information consumers, providers, distributors, creators, pirates, creators, hackers, copyright holders, and all sorts of middlemen.

This leads to absurdities like an amateur musician uploading a video to YouTube that they recorded at home of them showing how to play the bassline to "Hotel California" and it being instently taken down by YouTube because Don Henley of The Eagles employes a company with hundreds of workers that does nothing but scour YouTube for videos with any trace of content that he has a copyright claim to.

The absurd part about it is that there's no way to differentiate between videos that are illegally sharing copyrighted music, and videos that are clearly covered under "fair use" law.

They all get taken down indiscriminately, and the only recourse is to dispute the action with YouTube and hope they revue your appeal in your favor, which seems to have no sense of reason behind the process.

As a personal anecdote, Every cover band that I've been a part of for the last 25 years, has made a point of playing in venues that pay annual fees to the music publishing companies for the right to cover copyrighted songs when we play gigs there.

Yet, I can't post a video anywhere online of my band playing any of these shows because internet bots are constantly monitoring all social media for any scrap of copyrighted music and immediately shutting it down.

Remember that all of this started out decades ago as record companies selling music in stores that was recorded onto vinyl records and packaged as physical "albums".

Occasionally, music pirates would physically copy these albums (at great effort and expense) and sell the illegal copies out of shady record shops and hope they didn't get raided by the feds.

That evolved into online piracy, which eventually spawned sites like Napster, which essentially made money by providing a host site for tens of millions of music consumers to illegally pirate copyrighted songs without paying for them.

Considering where we are now, I don't think anybody has any idea what's going to happen even five years from now, much less 10 or 20 years in the future.
 
Before the IT revolution, so many American companies earned treir profits via paid advertising.

Now that sharing information is basically free, these companies have had to find new ways to make money. Many of them changed to a paid prescription format.

But a lot of these companies failed to understand the reality of the new balance of power and believed (falsely) that they could simply charge whatever fee they wanted to and customers would have no choice but to pay it.

Look at Photobucket. They switched to a prescription format with an unreasonably high price tag ($99 per year for basic membership, $399 per year for premium) and there was an instant exodus of nearly all of their users.

We live in the "wild west" of information sharing on the internet. There are multitudes of different types of arms races going on between and among information consumers, providers, distributors, creators, pirates, creators, hackers, copyright holders, and all sorts of middlemen.

This leads to absurdities like an amateur musician uploading a video to YouTube that they recorded at home of them showing how to play the bassline to "Hotel California" and it being instently taken down by YouTube because Don Henley of The Eagles employes a company with hundreds of workers that does nothing but scour YouTube for videos with any trace of content that he has a copyright claim to.

The absurd part about it is that there's no way to differentiate between videos that are illegally sharing copyrighted music, and videos that are clearly covered under "fair use" law.

They all get taken down indiscriminately, and the only recourse is to dispute the action with YouTube and hope they revue your appeal in your favor, which seems to have no sense of reason behind the process.

As a personal anecdote, Every cover band that I've been a part of for the last 25 years, has made a point of playing in venues that pay annual fees to the music publishing companies for the right to cover copyrighted songs when we play gigs there.

Yet, I can't post a video anywhere online of my band playing any of these shows because internet bots are constantly monitoring all social media for any scrap of copyrighted music and immediately shutting it down.

Remember that all of this started out decades ago as record companies selling music in stores that was recorded onto vinyl records and packaged as physical "albums".

Occasionally, music pirates would physically copy these albums (at great effort and expense) and sell the illegal copies out of shady record shops and hope they didn't get raided by the feds.

That evolved into online piracy, which eventually spawned sites like Napster, which essentially made money by providing a host site for tens of millions of music consumers to illegally pirate copyrighted songs without paying for them.

Considering where we are now, I don't think anybody has any idea what's going to happen even five years from now, much less 10 or 20 years in the future.
Much of your post is about copyright issues, which is a totally different topic for another thread.

Getting back to the issue of ads, I'm struck by your example of what happened to Photobucket when they switched to a subscription service. In that case, users just migrated to other sites that didn't have such high fees because there were plenty of alternative sites available for posting photos. It seems to me that YouTube is different, though, since they more or less have a monopoly on videos and are thus able to dictate terms: i.e., to allow ads or to pay whatever price they choose for ad-free content.
 
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Much of your post is about copyright issues, which is a totally different topic for another thread.

Getting back to the issue of ads, I'm struck by your example of what happened to Photobucket when they switched to a subscription service. In that case, users

You make some good points about other companies taking on former Photobucket users after they changed their policy (and you're right about me getting off track with the diversion into copyright issues).
 
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