AERO PICKUPS - Religious Tone Experience

Uh oh :bassist: fresh AEROs means it's time to Crack some walls with passive tonez!

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The Bass and Guitar OB.1 look identical. The only visual difference is when you take the back off, it says BASS on the inside cover.

When you order it, you have to make sure you check the box for the "Bass Guitar Modification" for the full extended range.
Strymon customer service is also very responsive IME.

The Strymon is a GREAT comp and so is the Darkglass Supersymmetry. Both very nice and transparent
 
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Uh oh :bassist: fresh AEROs means it's time to Crack some walls with passive tonez!

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If by chance you really don't like those Type 1's, I would be more than happy to take them
off your hands!!!
Have fun & we shall all expect a full detailed account of your experience.
 
I"ll be on the look out for a deal on the 5 string version. 19MM.

I have the 5s. I doubt you will be dissaponted. My Carlo with Aero type 1 parts the clouds. I played them with a Johnny East pre, then sold the pre. Went passive and haven't looked back. That good.

My string spacing is wider than 19mm. Larry built the pole pieces lined up. With the covers on, you can see the holes and poles are off a tiny bit. As a result the pole pieces are slightly recessed, the thickness of the cover. You'd have to be at hands on distance to notice. Most basses won't have this issue, just wanted to share my experience.
I don't care, the sound is wicked! A+
 
I have not tried my Aero equipped bass with my Sadowsky preamp pedal but I'll give it a try.

Tried the Sadowsky preamp with the Aero loaded jazz. It of course sounds good but I didn't find the difference to be dramatic enough to make me want to use it with the bass. I didn't find it needed the bass boost and the treble boost can add a bit of nice hifi clarity but again, it was subtle. To their credit, the Aeros are naturally really nicely balanced.
 
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Tried the Sadowsky preamp with the Aero loaded jazz. It of course sounds good but I did't find the difference to be dramatic enough to make me want to use it with the bass. I didn't find it needed the bass boost and the treble boost can add a bit of nice hifi clarity but again, it was subtle. To their credit, the Aeros are naturally really nicely balanced.

I tried an onboard Audere with the Aeros and wasn't a fan, I think these sound perfect on their own. Thanks for reporting back!
 
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So am I! I expect to receive them around the end of the month (give or take) and will post my thoughts and experiences here after I get them installed.

What I really want to do is record my bass before and after installation as a comparison for everyone to hear. I likely will go direct to the interface with no preamp and with zero effects. Just raw tone right from the bass to the DAW. That way we can hear what I have right now and the end result with the Aero pickup installed.

I do not intend on changing anything else on this bass at this time even though it is currently an active bass. This brings up something I have been strongly debating with myself in the back of my head. Because there is a piezo pickup in it (yes a P bass with a piezo), it came with active electronics. Making it passive would all but eliminate the usability of the piezo which I am not yet prepared to do. If I find myself wanting to use the Aero 100% of the time, I can convert it to passive in the future (or figure out some crazy way to have only the piezo active if that is even possible... we'll see what my initial results are before I go down that road).

Larry convinced me that the best and easiest way to do this was just have it run through the blend knob first (the way it is wired now). He advised that I would be loosing some of the frequency spectrum as the pre does its own "coloring and filtering" of the signal. It also kind of levels the two signals from each pickup so you don't get such a discrepancy in levels. Being that the piezo has a much lower output, I would expect the onboard electronics to "limit" (in its own way) the Aero pickup. An engineer like Larry can explain it much more accurately than I can, but in my simpleton type brain, that's how it makes sense to me. :p

Larry pointed me to an interview he did back in November of 2015 with Jeff Floro of LA Talk Radio (www.latalkradio.com). It is about 53 minutes long and Larry actually talks a little bit about that active electronics thing I mentioned above starting at about the 31 minute 20 second point.

Here is a link directly to their conversation. Guitar-110215 | LA Talk Radio

Larry, I hope you don't mind me sharing this link. I figured it is out in the 'verse already... I'm thinking this will also be a good way for those who want to know more about Aero but do not want to spend the cost of an international phone call. :)


As they say, the proof is in the pudding. We will see what my bass sounds like with a true A/B comparison first. Then we will see if I want to explore an active to passive conversion.

I'll keep you posted.

Did you get the pup?! How's it sound??
 
YES! I got them late last week. With the hurricane in Hawaii, I was concerned that Larry's shop was affected. But they showed up by the end of the month just like he said they would.

I have to have a break in the action on my side before I can spend the time to install them. Busy week of day job and gigs have been keeping me from spending the time to get that done.

I should have some time next week to get this done and will let you know how it sounds.
 
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Received my Aero J5 Type 1 last Thursday. They went into my Lakland Skyline 55-60 custom.
Spent three days adjusting pup height, starting at the recommended 4mm. Think I have found
MY sweetspot. For those who do not listen very carefully to the big differences to tone that
height can make, I strongly recommend syringing your ears & getting into it. Yes you can adjust
for volume balance across the strings but I realized I always tended to raise them rather than lower
them, now everything is sweeter, richer & any harshness is gone. True for all makes of pups,
consider also, that, different makes of strings have different oscillation patterns & magnetic strengths
& properties which also is affected by string tension. So when changing string brands try adjusting
pup height.
These Aeros replaced my Delano JMVC5 FE, which are the large pole Jazz style. Honestly....they
are very similar. I was expecting a big difference & must say I love the Delanos. Having said that,
I think the low B is a little tighter & the D&G are a little sweeter. They sounded good at the gig
last night, so will stick with them for a while as I would be hard pressed to choose one over the
other. Highly recommend both makes. If I have any further revelations, I will post it.
By the way, strings are Dunlop Super Bright nickels.
 
My baby is on the bench! lol!



I do not trust myself enough with a soldering iron and something as important to me as my no.1, so I am getting a professional to do my install. Getting the Aero installed and a solid upgrade to my Piezo thanks to Walter at Cafe Walter Audio - PZP-1 Piezo Buffer | Cafe Walter Audio

Andrew at South Austin Guitar Repair is a stand up guy and really knows his stuff. If you are in Austin and need some help, look him up. South Austin Guitar Repair - (512) 590-1225 - Austin TX Guitar Setup and Repair

Here is what it looks like on the inside.


It has been a very long time since I have had anything done to this bass and it is high time it gets some attention.


When I get this back, I am hoping to have some serious tone upgrade!

Before and after audio files coming soon!
 
My baby is on the bench! lol!



I do not trust myself enough with a soldering iron and something as important to me as my no.1, so I am getting a professional to do my install. Getting the Aero installed and a solid upgrade to my Piezo thanks to Walter at Cafe Walter Audio - PZP-1 Piezo Buffer | Cafe Walter Audio

Andrew at South Austin Guitar Repair is a stand up guy and really knows his stuff. If you are in Austin and need some help, look him up. South Austin Guitar Repair - (512) 590-1225 - Austin TX Guitar Setup and Repair

Here is what it looks like on the inside.


It has been a very long time since I have had anything done to this bass and it is high time it gets some attention.


When I get this back, I am hoping to have some serious tone upgrade!

Before and after audio files coming soon!


YES!!! Can't wait to see and hear your review! I just got my Aero's installed into these two EGC aluminum neck Fender hybrids on Friday - Larry does custom harnesses so I ordered those too. I have to say, I am already familiar with how great the Type 1's are in a Jazz but I was absolutely blown away by the P pickup. Such a massive, clean, open tone with the aluminum neck - I had to turn everything down (comp, preamp, amp) but wow. I bought an interface setup so I could do some demos as well
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YES!!! Can't wait to see and hear your review! I just got my Aero's installed into these two EGC aluminum neck Fender hybrids on Friday - Larry does custom harnesses so I ordered those too. I have to say, I am already familiar with how great the Type 1's are in a Jazz but I was absolutely blown away by the P pickup. Such a massive, clean, open tone with the aluminum neck - I had to turn everything down (comp, preamp, amp) but wow. I bought an interface setup so I could do some demos as well
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wOwwieee! Those are beautiful! The chrome necks really sets those off!

Looking forward to your audio demos as well!
 
YES!!! Can't wait to see and hear your review! I just got my Aero's installed into these two EGC aluminum neck Fender hybrids on Friday - Larry does custom harnesses so I ordered those too. I have to say, I am already familiar with how great the Type 1's are in a Jazz but I was absolutely blown away by the P pickup. Such a massive, clean, open tone with the aluminum neck - I had to turn everything down (comp, preamp, amp) but wow. I bought an interface setup so I could do some demos as well
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For sure they are not that common ... wooow ... how'd you managed to arrange something like that? :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
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