Best City For Gigging?

I know what the WORST one is. Lahaina, HI. Absolutely thee most soul-crushing place to get a gig, practically zero support from any local businesses unless you're a solo performer using a looper pedal and can sing and play all the popular junk hits and take a crap paycheck and depend on tips. Bands? Friggin forgetaboutit. Did I mention soul-crushing? Of the gigs there are, basically one guy is getting them all and he's not even that good. And no teenagers are starting their own bands like back in the day. I'm seriously considering selling it all and quitting forever even though playing is my absolute favorite thing ever. Before my soul gets crushed. Oh, too late.
 
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I know what the WORST one is. Lahaina, HI. Absolutely thee most soul-crushing place to get a gig, practically zero support from any local businesses unless you're a solo performer using a looper pedal and can sing and play all the popular junk hits and take a crap paycheck and depend on tips. Bands? Friggin forgetaboutit. Did I mention soul-crushing? Of the gigs there are, basically one guy is getting them all and he's not even that good. And no teenagers are starting their own bands like back in the day. I'm seriously considering selling it all and quitting forever even though playing is my absolute favorite thing ever. Before my soul gets crushed. Oh, too late.

At least you have the rest of Maui and you're not stuck in, say, Steubenville, Ohio.
 
So you know Mitch. And Granny the soundman who was deaf to high frequencies. 79 is early in Rat lore. I saw RHCP there in 84 playing Baby Appeal... for the 90s Boston experience there's about to be released this memory- I was in 2 bands Billy Ruane helped promote, a very special and loving person with a built in destruct.


I forgot about Granny! Billy was a fixture on the scene for sure. Ran into him at the Middle East pretty frequently.
 
I live in the Philly metro area but play primarily with a band out of the NYC metro area. One of the main reasons is better pay. With the cost of living being higher, good bands in NYC get better $.

I actually just did a side by side comparison between June 2024 and October 2023 - pay-per-gig averaged $300 back in November and now is up to about $325. It’s not enough to live on in NY but enough to supplement my family’s income in Philly. There are also a lot more gigging opportunities in NYC. Mind you this is the cover scene. My impression is NY has a diverse scene. Philly is probably 95% cover bands.

Is NY the best? No clue, but I like it better than Philadelphia.
 
I live in the Philly metro area but play primarily with a band out of the NYC metro area. One of the main reasons is better pay. With the cost of living being higher, good bands in NYC get better $.

I actually just did a side by side comparison between June 2024 and October 2023 - pay-per-gig averaged $300 back in November and now is up to about $325. It’s not enough to live on in NY but enough to supplement my family’s income in Philly. There are also a lot more gigging opportunities in NYC. Mind you this is the cover scene. My impression is NY has a diverse scene. Philly is probably 95% cover bands.

Is NY the best? No clue, but I like it better than Philadelphia.
If I lived in commute distance to NYC, Id be there in a second....better pay. Down here in central Fl,we can play pro for disney, the cruise ships, wedding/corporate, so there are options, I live near Sanford Fl, and we have a BUNCH of live venues for bands and acts, so I am lucky that I have an avenue for creativity....we call it #sanfording and the community gets behind the arts.
 
I came up in Boston and played there in the 80s and 90s, mostly original music. I found it tough to make a living just playing in Boston. Once my band started touring, it got a lot easier because we got some respect. Lots of places to play back then, although it seems that most of them are gone. Around the time I left in 1995, the Paradise was my hometown gig.

You are definitely right about no cover band gigs, at least back then. I didn't know anyone who played covers. I did a few GB gigs here and then, but most it was originals.

My first gig ever was at the Rat in 1979.
We probably crossed paths quite a bit. I was in Boston 1974-1994, and started playing the jazz, folk and rock clubs in 1977. Some of the places where I played (Boston, Cambridge, Somerville) were: The Idler; The Blue Parrot; Passim; The 1369 Jazz Club; Michael's Jazz Club; Pooh's Pub; The Channel; Bunratty's; Great Scott; Molly's; Harper's Ferry; The Paradise; Jumping Jack Flash; The Rat; Jack's; Ryles; The Sunflower Cafe; Jonathan Swift's; Johnny D's; Club III; etc., etc. I played on the WERS Sunday afternoon live broadcasts from Passim several times (and did the in-studio show), and appeared on local (New England) television a few times. Once, when I was on a morning show, I went to the donut and coffee table and ran into John Ehrlichman, one of Richard Nixon's henchmen, who was on the show to promote a book. I also played a lot of GB gigs, around 1979-1981, mostly on the North Shore. But yeah-- cover bands were really few and far between.

Boston was a great "training wheels" town, where you could play *a lot* and work on your craft, but the music industry wasn't there. If you met a random person and said that you were a musician, the person might say, "My brother-in-law is a bouncer at Chet's Last Call. Would that connection help you?" After I moved to the NYC area, the analogous person would say, "My next door neighbor is the president of Columbia Records. Would that connection help you?" o_O I would gulp and stammer, "Thanks! Maybe in a little while!"
There was that brief period when some Boston bands suddenly got major label deals -- Face to Face, New Man, Til Tuesday -- and every other decent original band was salivating. But that didn't last long.

I remember the Boston music scene as being oddly divided between the many music students and teachers, who played jazz, and the locals, who played garage rock (like the Neighborhoods). There wasn't a lot of R&B, blues or country music around there back then.

I was able to survive on gigging for a few years, but largely because I was playing with a singer/songwriter who had an agent who got us lots of college gigs and excellent opening slots out of town, as well as in the Boston area. We toured around the Eastern half of the U.S. for most of the '80s. What killed a lot of that was the drinking age being moved from 18 to 21 in a lot of states. Before that, even the college gigs which were "coffeehouse" things usually had some alcohol around. When the alcohol left, the student activities people spent the money on things other than live music.

Well, this didn't help the OP one bit, but it was fun to reminisce!
 
In my experience, the most shocking collapse of the live music scene has been here in the San Francisco Bay Area.

We used to have so many bands and venues that a thick, full-color magazine called Bay Area Music not only covered them, they hosted an annual award called the Bammies. Record labels maintained offices up here, almost as a matter of form. The number of important bands that sprung up from here can (and do) populate chapters of their own in music history books.

Now, there are *maybe* a dozen venues actively booking original bands. Most of those are bars with micro-stages. Genres are becoming silos, with little room for cross-pollination. If you don’t want to take wallpaper gigs, your options are dwindling.
 
Damn. Tough crowd.

We shouldn't be working at all - We obviously got no shame.




What I have come to realize is that what the band likes to play and what the crowd likes to hear are not often overlapping. I have more fun when the crowd is having fun. So, I'll happily play Mustang Sally or Brown Eyed Girl for the millionth time. I would rather suffer through Tennessee Whiskey again and enjoy the crowd out there dancing and having fun. Better than playing something I love and having people stare at me.

I get it, some of my bandmates do not. It is at the point that I get texts with song suggestions and I just laugh out loud. Know your audience. We attract a mostly middle aged crowd or older and have a female singer. My drummer loves to suggest stuff like Bad Company by Five Finger Death Punch. 🤣 Yeah that is going to go over like a lead balloon.
 
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