Why does this platform find itself incapable of shutting off scam interlopers? How secure is user credit card information?
Sure, a few folks believe your concerns lack merit, but I'm still glad you brought this up.According to the assembled masses they are NOT legitimate concerns. They are thought at best to be misguided.
No, I don't have any security concerns here because I just assume the security is penetrable and act accordingly. Thanks for asking though.
That’s not how it works…. at allIf they can create a bogus Commercial User account with apparently no verification, as some have in the past, the site is not secure. If the site lets them do that, I will assume the bad actor can get to the personal information if they wish to.
The only safe device is one that is powered off, in a locked room, in a Faraday cage, with no network connectivity. And even then....Especially those with network connectivity.
Don't be too had on eBay, there's still lots of legit scams available on there if you look hard enough.Same here...couldn't tell you how many times I've run across fake replicas on eBay, really hope we don't start seeing those here too.
... even then, it should be surrounded by a moat of burning lava.....The only safe device is one that is powered off, in a locked room, in a Faraday cage, with no network connectivity. And even then....
...and even then...The only safe device is one that is powered off, in a locked room, in a Faraday cage, with no network connectivity. And even then....
Why does this platform find itself incapable of shutting off scam interlopers? How secure is user credit card information?
convincing the buyer to pay friends and family (in violation of ours and PayPal's rules) and then disappearing with the money.
If you feel your info is leak, go on the website Have I Been Pwned: Check if your email has been compromised in a data breach
I believe in that movie they hacked the Gibson. I wonder if it was a Grabber or a Ripper?...and even then...
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"i'm in!"
HACK THE PLANET!
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They did briefly and we saw a rash of members being ripped off by scammers with no recourse. We still see it when they post according to the rules and then agree in PM to do F&F anyway for all the reasons "why should I pay 3% to PayPal for payment processing?" "I don't want to hassle with a 1099".I thought the rule about F&F was changed to allow it? I know a lot of sellers want to avoid getting 1099K’s.
Good luck, those guys are clueless.I'm reporting you to the mods!
They did briefly and we saw a rash of members being ripped off by scammers with no recourse. We still see it when they post according to the rules and then agree in PM to do F&F anyway for all the reasons "why should I pay 3% to PayPal for payment processing?" "I don't want to hassle with a 1099".
Buyer makes the payment, turns out the seller was a scammer and never actually owned the instrument. Both buyer and seller were involved in a fraud and there is no recovering the sometimes thousands of dollars that the buyer gifted to the scammer.
Complete Classifieds Rules
and the specific language:
"Due to the proliferation of scammers taking advantage of payment forms with no buyer protection, we are reverting our rules back to what they were previously.
Sellers can request either PayPal goods and services payments or Venmo payments where the buyer marks the payment as for goods and services. This is required in order to have the buyer protection plan be applicable to the buyer. Sellers – if you really want to use Venmo because saving that 3% is so important to you, then we are going to expect you to remind buyers to write their purchases are for goods and services and be willing to refund their money to them if they did not initially send it in that manner.
Sellers cannot say “net to me” or any permutation of it.
Sellers cannot tell buyers it’s their responsibility to cover PayPal fees.
Sellers requesting/offering deals for fee free payments in PMs will result in a ban."
There is a long thread with members complaining that PayPal should be a free service and we're not going to re-litigate that here. Sorry. If you saw what I saw in the reports section, you might feel differently.
If you saw what I saw in the reports section, you might feel differently.
Having new threads from the whole site put front and center on the homepage has made it a lot easier to spot and flag spam. Thanks, new site design!Yeah, some days...
Talkbass is managing fairly well, though, I think.