Double Bass Did others here also feel treated disrespectfully?

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Razman said:
Mainly I stick to a few threads so I probably don't see a lot of what you've experienced, OP. Mostly sarcasm, which is usually entertaining, and sometime annoying, but I'm okay with that.

One thing I will share is that one topic to avoid is modifying speaker cabinets. It seems that modding basses is perfectly normal - pedals, even, and possibly amplifiers, provided you know what you are doing or are having someone reputable doing it for you.

BUT - mention that you are going to experiment modding a cabinet and the activists come out to warn you that you might disrupt the space/time continuum by doing so. I've experienced reputable members admonish me for simply adding a port tube to a cab - to say they were passionate about the science behind cab design is an understatement. :rollno: One member in particular was helpful, and I achieved the result intended, but herewith I caution you on embarking on a similar endeavor.

Other than that, I'm of the maturity level now that I rarely feel inclined to "correct" someone on the Internet, and don't take too seriously when someone causes me to bristle (but it does happen occasionally). Thick skin seems to be in short supply these days, for certain.

Enjoy the drive, but drive paranoid!

Raz
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It was not about modding cabinets, but about me wanting to build a small sealed cab that others think would have a too thin bass response while I thought it might be good enough for playing with Cajon and 1-2 acoustic guitars. The others simply didn't accept that I still wanted to try it, even though I got the advice to not do so. I really don't have a clue why people could get mad because of that!

I told them that I don't have the money to buy other speakers and in another thread a very highly regarded Cab expert even approved exactly what I wanted to do with the speaker I wanted to use. But that didn't change a thing. They kept on putting me down for no good reason and calling me disrespectful because I wanted to try it out!?!
 
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For the most part this site is full of Bass players and good people sharing their experience and thoughts. There are times where some members can be a bit condescending. I guess some could consider that disrespectful. A very accomplished Musician friend of mine told me that people whom speak down or condescendingly towards others are usually making up for their own inadequacies in their own musical abilities or whatever endeavor they are engaged in.
I would not refrain from participating in the forums here because there are a lot of good people here sharing a lot of useful information.
 
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Mr Ralph said:
For the most part this site is full of Bass players and good people sharing their experience and thoughts. There are times where some members can be a bit condescending. I guess some could consider that disrespectful. A very accomplished Musician friend of mine told me that people whom speak down or condescendingly towards others are usually making up for their own inadequacies in their own musical abilities or whatever endeavor they are engaged in.
I would not refrain from participating in the forums here because there are a lot of good people here sharing a lot of useful information.
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It was more about schooling me that it's disrespectful to ask for advice and then not do what people advised me to do. When I ask for advice I am thankful for all advice I can get but don't feel obliged to actually follow that advice if I think that the person who gave the advice didn't really understand what my needs are.

I really don't have a clue how that can be disrespectful. People seemed to feel like they wasted their time, but I felt like they didn't really listen to what I need, so I thanked them for their advice but do what seems to make sense to me.

Do you guys think that's disrespectful? I really started to question myself
 
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Ralferator said:
It was not related to this thread...And I am totally OK with people having a completely different taste than I have. But I do think that personal attacks aren't necessary, no matter if you have a different taste than others. And please - I don't need to be schooled by you about respect - i don't know if you realize it - but that's not very respectful!
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my apology, i thought for certain you were referencing the thread that was shut down by the mods.

with regard to respect: i'm not looking for lessons ;) --- that's the best you can expect from me. good luck with your posts and threads! :thumbsup:
 
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Ralferator said:
It was not related to this thread

And I am totally OK with people having a completely different taste than I have. But I do think that personal attacks aren't necessary, no matter if you have a different taste than others. And please - I don't need to be schooled by you about respect - i don't know if you realize it - but that's not very respectful!
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Easy tiger!

JRA is one the most easy going level headed dudes on this forum, he was not attacking or being disrespectful.
 
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JRA said:
my apology, i thought for certain you referencing the thread that was shut down by the mods.

with regard to respect: i'm not looking for lessons ;) --- that's the best you can expect from me. good luck with your posts and threads! :thumbsup:
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Thank you! (and no worries!)

No, I could deal with that other thread - I knew I was provocative! Still I would have preferred if people would not have attacked me personally, simply for saying that I don't like Jaco's tone! It should be possible to say that without getting attacked personally - in my opinion.
 
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FRoss6788 said:
Easy tiger!

JRA is one the most easy going level headed dudes on this forum, he was not attacking or being disrespectful.
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I have to admit that I got a little sensitive! I didn't feel attacked by him. But I do think it's disrespectful if people try to school others. You might think it's not - I do. So I had to mention that
 
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Anne Millington said:
I really enjoy the Upright Side of the River here. People seem to go out of their way to be helpful, and provide interesting and helpful commentary. I most assuredly do not feel that way about other groups I frequent. So +1 for our side!
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Seems like it was a good coincidence that I accidentally chose the Upright forum to post my thread! Thank you everybody! It helps! I really started to have a bad mood. You guys helped me over that!!! :thumbsup:
 
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Ralferator said:
... When I ask for advice I am thankful for all advice I can get but don't feel obliged to actually follow that advice if I think that the person who gave the advice didn't really understand what my needs are.
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i did not post on the other thread, but i read the first couple of pages. accepting your request for clarity at face value, my take on the matter is this: i think there were some sort of language intricacies that were misread. bluntly, it seemed as though you were telling an educated expert that he was wrong and you knew better than he did, and not that he didn't understand your needs.

perhaps that antagonistic tone did not come through the language barrier on your side, but it was received that way by many readers, including myself.

anyway, i hope this helps you understand the rancor. it's not a cult, it's just that your remarks were received as insulting.
 
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I have never felt disrespected personally as it happens.
You have to remember that the written word may not come across as you intended. In communication body language and facial expressions and nuance of the spoken word are important.
Also we may be conversing with people whose first language is not English.
I presume from Brazil your first language is Portuguese.
(However your English is better than my non existent Portuguese!)
 
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Drredplate said:
I have never felt disrespected personally as it happens.
You have to remember that the written word may not come across as you intended. In communication body language and facial expressions and nuance of the spoken word are important.
Also we may be conversing with people whose first language is not English.
I presume from Brazil your first language is Portuguese.
(However your English is better than my non existent Portuguese!)
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A very good point and what others may have had issue with.

Different cultures communicate differently and may take offense where non was intended.
 
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Stepping in here. Your other thread was closed and you posted in the otherwise peaceful Doublebass forum to continue the debate about your personal experience. I don't want this to go on for 10 pages here with you repeating the same things trying to win the same argument.

Let it go, take a break if you must. Shutting this one down.
 
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