Double Bass Eminence Megathread

I remember speaking to G Edwards Luthiers in 2003, regarding Eminence basses being sold abroad, and this is what I recall:

GEL contracted with a manufacturer to make the body and neck for their Eminence basses. Think of these as raw materials. Then GEL would go to work. They attached the custom Gage Realist pick up, and did any fingerboard work required, including the custom fingerboard dots.

While their contract required the manufacturer to refrain from selling in the US, it did not prevent them from selling in other countries. Some of these basses were sold as— even represented as — Eminence basses. The telltale sign was that they did not have a G Edwards label or serial number. That is not the only sign. They also do not have the custom Gage Realist pick up – just the stock one, and usually no fingerboard dots.
I bought my Eminence from an Australian importer. It was way cheaper than from the US. It has nothing written on it at all and the action was atrocious but some sanding to the bridge has made it an excellent bass. I think it does have the custom realist pickup. I actually use a full circle on it though.
 
looking at a 2018 Eminence online (haven't seen in person yet)

Anyone with input on build quality/features on ones around this vintage?

Also, this one has a fixed neck - anyone ever converted to removable neck with input on cost/complexity?
 
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looking at a 2018 Eminence online (haven't seen in person yet)

Anyone with input on build quality/features on ones around this vintage?

Also, this one has a fixed neck - anyone ever converted to removable neck with input on cost/complexity?
I think the conversion would be pretty difficult - not sure where you’re located, but I have a removable neck, which I don’t ever take apart, and if we were in the same part of the country, it might be realistic to swap. I’m in Colorado.
 
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I think the conversion would be pretty difficult - not sure where you’re located, but I have a removable neck, which I don’t ever take apart, and if we were in the same part of the country, it might be realistic to swap. I’m in Colorado.
Thanks, I'm in MA. If you're interested in a straight up sale, or trade for a Chadwick, let me know!
 
Well, I’m in Colorado, so I don’t think we’re gonna be doing any transactions with each other! I’m very happy with the eminence, but really have no need for the removable neck. It’s got a big brass dovetail joint that would pretty hard to retrofit that I would think. You might want to ask a luthier locally about it, but I would expect it would be pretty expensive.
 
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Well, I’m in Colorado, so I don’t think we’re gonna be doing any transactions with each other! I’m very happy with the eminence, but really have no need for the removable neck. It’s got a big brass dovetail joint that would pretty hard to retrofit that I would think. You might want to ask a luthier locally about it, but I would expect it would be pretty expensive.
Appreciate the quick reply, thank you! I do know a local luthier who does removable necks on regular upright basses, not sure about an EUB though
 
I am putting new strings on my Eminence -- Evah Pirazzi Weich. I saw a post somewhere that showed the exact lengths the strings should be cut to; but I haven't found it after searching and searching for it. The post also had step by step instructions for assembling and tearing down the removable neck Eminence, complete with a trick to hold the bridge in place while you are putting the strings on.

Can somebody please help me with this?
 
I am putting new strings on my Eminence -- Evah Pirazzi Weich. I saw a post somewhere that showed the exact lengths the strings should be cut to; but I haven't found it after searching and searching for it. The post also had step by step instructions for assembling and tearing down the removable neck Eminence, complete with a trick to hold the bridge in place while you are putting the strings on.

Can somebody please help me with this?
Cant help you directly with your questions (I have a removable neck but never disassemble it). I have found it helpful to take a very fine point sharpie and trace around the feet onto the bass top - that way its obvious where the bridge should be located. As far as cutting the strings, I have never seen any published dimensions. I try to minimize cutting, but its somewhat necessary with this bass due to a combination of the scale and the tight spacing in the headpiece.
 
If you cut strings, fix the silk at the end with a drop of glue.
I wouldn‘t say that Evah Pirazzi are a good string for a removable neck instrument. Get GHS Innovation Braided for a removable neck instrument if you want something similar to Evah Weich that is robust.
Thanks for the tip. Do you think the GHS are better because of the removeable neck? I expect to pretty much leave it assembled as I don't need to travel with the bass and hate to try to reproduce the set-up when I reassemble the bass. I use Obligatos on my acoustic upright and wanted something fairly similar that bows well. Some how I thought the lower tension of the weich strings might be desirable on the Eminence.
 
Cant help you directly with your questions (I have a removable neck but never disassemble it). I have found it helpful to take a very fine point sharpie and trace around the feet onto the bass top - that way its obvious where the bridge should be located. As far as cutting the strings, I have never seen any published dimensions. I try to minimize cutting, but its somewhat necessary with this bass due to a combination of the scale and the tight spacing in the headpiece.
Actually, a previous owner outlined the placement of the bridge foot with a shallow razor cut, so it's easy to place the bridge correctly.
 
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Thanks for the tip. Do you think the GHS are better because of the removeable neck? I expect to pretty much leave it assembled as I don't need to travel with the bass and hate to try to reproduce the set-up when I reassemble the bass. I use Obligatos on my acoustic upright and wanted something fairly similar that bows well. Some how I thought the lower tension of the weich strings might be desirable on the Eminence.
I have read several times that the Braided survive disassembly/assembly many times very well.
I use use them myself. Easy to bow, stronger E than Evah Weich, soft but jazz-useable pizz. But my strings are from the UK period of Innovation. Nevertheless worth a try. Synthetic core like EP and Obligato, but less stretchy.
Almost sll other bowable synthetic core strings won’t survive many disassemblies.
But if you keep the instrument as one part, you can use the EP Weich. They can get a bit stiff after a while. I have them on my Clevinger solid body EUB, but might get back to the Spiro Weich I used before because of the stiffness.

You might want to have a look at my excel file in my Dropbox for string tensions (link in string sticky) when used on the same scale.
 
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Thanks for the tip. Do you think the GHS are better because of the removeable neck? I expect to pretty much leave it assembled as I don't need to travel with the bass and hate to try to reproduce the set-up when I reassemble the bass. I use Obligatos on my acoustic upright and wanted something fairly similar that bows well. Some how I thought the lower tension of the weich strings might be desirable on the Eminence.
Tension is definitely higher on the Eminence. When I first got it I was using Perpetuals on my regular bass and found that a set of perpetual solos had very similar tension on the eminence, probably because of the tailpiece (or lack thereof).
 
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I have read several times that the Braided survive disassembly/assembly many times very well.
I use use them myself. Easy to bow, stronger E than Evah Weich, soft but jazz-useable pizz. But my strings are from the UK period of Innovation. Nevertheless worth a try. Synthetic core like EP and Obligato, but less stretchy.
Almost sll other bowable synthetic core strings won’t survive many disassemblies.
But if you keep the instrument as one part, you can use the EP Weich. They can get a bit stiff after a while. I have them on my Clevinger solid body EUB, but might get back to the Spiro Weich I used before because of the stiffness.

You might want to have a look at my excel file in my Dropbox for string tensions (link in string sticky) when used on the same scale.
Thanks!
 
Thank you all for the advice. Got the EPs on my bass and although they haven't settled in yet, I do like the sound. They bow nicely and the pizz is nice and deep, but not muddy. I think others have noticed that these strings have a decently crisp attack. These are definitely a step up from the D'Addario Helicore Hybrids that came with the bass.
 
I found that post I was looking for. Good information quoted below.


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Care and feeding of your Eminence:

I've spoken to Gary Bartig, the inventor of the Eminence, a few times over the years and he's always been generous with his time to answer any questions I have, and he's quick to offer advice on the best practices of handling the Eminence, so, in the spirit of giving back, here's my list of tips. Hopefully, others can add theirs too.

1) Most DB strings are too long for the Eminence, so to prevent blowing out the E-string worm-gear, it's important to trim them before you install them. Here are the lengths: G & D = 63 A = 61 and E = 58

2) For removable neck Emmy's, a good glob of liquid super glue will keep the strings from slipping off the tuning peg when the neck is removed. Bend the end of the string at a right angle and apply a glob of liquid super glue and hold it a moment against the tuning peg fork before you start winding the string. Wind the string towards the outside of the peg box. DON'T use the gel kind of super glue because that may hold too well and make the string difficult to remove when it's time to change strings. The super glue is also use to prevent the strings from unwinding after you've cut them.

3) Marking the top of your bridge and where its feet and the Realist pickup rest on the body with a pencil or pen has made assembling the removable neck Emmy much easier, especially when I'm exhausted from a flight or jet lagged. No measuring.

4) Liberal amounts of graphite powder applied to the bridge and nut grooves help prevent the strings from binding as you wind them down.

5) Carefully holding the top of the bridge while tightening the strings is important to keep the bridge from falling over and possibly being damaged. I watch the bridge foot carefully for lifting off the body, meaning that the bridge is leaning towards the neck, and gently push it back flat against the body. I also use a post-it note to check if the bridge is leaning by trying to slide the paper under the bridge foot.

6) Once your bridge is properly set, you can cut a short stick of 2-inch wood stock to rest on top of and between the neck and the bridge, to help keep the bridge in place while tightening the strings.

7) An electronic tuner is handy in tuning the strings to concert pitch.

8) My 5 year old Realist pickup developed a significant hum, the tone became nasal, and the output was weak. Gary explained that the issue is that the ceramic plates aren't getting enough pressure. An easy fix is to apply a small amount of electrical tape to the copper foil where the discs are to increase the pressure a bit.

9) When I pack my removable neck Eminence in its hard shell golf bag, I put the neck scroll sideways to the body to prevent the gear blades from damage and with the scroll towards the ground, to prevent damage to the fingerboard in case a baggage carrier slams the case down hard.

10) I also pack my bridge resting on a rag in a transparent tuperware container to encourage the TSA inspector not to bother opening the box and risk damaging the bridge.

Hope that helps! Any corrections or questions - please let me know.