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Fender leak - American Vintage Series II is coming?
- Thread starter garrett77
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For some one looking for late 60s Fender Jazz bass with lolipop tuning machines
Fender 2021 Collection Made in Japan Traditional II Late 60s Jazz Bass Candy Apple Red フェンダージャパンジャズベース「中古」の落札価格｜フェンダー｜ヤフオク！ 落札相場- オークファン（aucfan.com）
Fender 2021 Collection Made in Japan Traditional II Late 60s Jazz Bass Candy Apple Red フェンダージャパンジャズベース「中古」の落札価格｜フェンダー｜ヤフオク！ 落札相場- オークファン（aucfan.com）
Yeah, I've seen some of these. I am looking for a reissue. I saw one one time for $1700. My dad had a Cherry Red with Block inlays. Thanks for the post.They're out there; Dakota or Fiesta?
Here's one for sale now for almost $20K.
meh` more of the same stuff as always
They look nice but being Fender they will of course be severely overpriced. If they're as good as the discontinued American Vintage series they MIGHT be worth it but I won't hold my breath. QC has been extremely poor at Fender USA since the introduction of the Pro/Original series and I can't see that changing overnight.
If you absolutely MUST have a Fender I'm sure they will be very nice instruments as long as you try before you buy and weed out the poor ones that slipped past QC. If you don't necessarily need a Fender you can probably find better basses at half the price but this has been the case with Fender for a long time now.
I do understand the lust for a Fender though. When they get it right there's nothing quite like a Fender. Sadly they very often get it wrong, either by design ("innovations" that nobody wants) or shockingly poor QC (at least when considering the price for MIA Fenders).
It's a sad thing when the first thing I think about a new series from Fender USA is "what have they messed up this time?". I will definitely sit tight and wait for reports of designs flaws, construction issues, etc. before even considering one of these. Anyone remember the off-centre truss rod in the American Original P-basses?
Or the bridge with the wrong spacing and the G-string practically outside the fretboard on the Ultra 5-string Jazz?
I won't even get into all the QC issues with my American Pro...
If you absolutely MUST have a Fender I'm sure they will be very nice instruments as long as you try before you buy and weed out the poor ones that slipped past QC. If you don't necessarily need a Fender you can probably find better basses at half the price but this has been the case with Fender for a long time now.
I do understand the lust for a Fender though. When they get it right there's nothing quite like a Fender. Sadly they very often get it wrong, either by design ("innovations" that nobody wants) or shockingly poor QC (at least when considering the price for MIA Fenders).
It's a sad thing when the first thing I think about a new series from Fender USA is "what have they messed up this time?". I will definitely sit tight and wait for reports of designs flaws, construction issues, etc. before even considering one of these. Anyone remember the off-centre truss rod in the American Original P-basses?
Or the bridge with the wrong spacing and the G-string practically outside the fretboard on the Ultra 5-string Jazz? I won't even get into all the QC issues with my American Pro...
Interested in the ‘54 RI. I made my own ‘54 style bass from parts and it’s not quite right. Pleased that there will finally be a reissue Fender single coil bass that isn’t school bus yellow.
When I first saw that the AVRI series was going away, I was momentarily happy about what could potentially be developed in its place. The American Original was not it.
Like many (but not all, I'm sure) of us here, I'm of the opinion that some of the best and most interesting Fender products over the last 5-10 years have been coming out of Fender Japan. That isn't good if you're Fender USA. It isn't 1962 and they aren't the only game in town.
My hope (I know I'm not alone here) has long been that Fender would launch a full-throated vintage "inspired" line of basses covering the '50s, '60s and '70s classics, but without being married to the specs of those basses. Without offering a "modern" bass with modernist hardware active electronics, etc., they could easily offer:
*Roasted body and neck options (or just make it standard)
*Truss rod adjustment at neck (where appropriate...'70s reissues with bullet truss rods excluded here)
*Flatter neck radius
*Satin finished neck
*Binding, binding and blocks, fretless schemes
*Wider variety of custom/unique colors (custom metallics, matching headstocks, etc.) without being too crazy, etc. - there are SOOO many great colors that would be extremely popular that Fender has all but forgotten when it comes to USA vintage basses.
*Even if at a premium cost....light weight bodies, rosewood fingerboards, etc.
For me, 3-tone sunburn, black, white, etc. just isn't interesting at all anymore (and hasten't been for decades). Sticky necks and basses that have to be disassembled for small tweaks isn't acceptable at this point. I fully realize that some of the options above might push the envelope of streamlining production and may challenge profitability, but do you want to make a ton of stuff that you may have to heavily discount or sell less of because of low demand, or should you make an exciting, dynamic product line that, while stretching the bounds of conform, may bring a LOT of sidelined enthusiasts back into your camp? I guess Fender has placed their bet.
As it is, I can get all of the things I'm looking for above from someone other than Fender. And while I could easily go the Fender Custom Shop route, I see no value (for me....that is) in paying $4-6K (or more) for a paint job and a bass that still weights 9.5-10lbs, which is where I'm seeing a LOT of Fender Custom Shop basses come in at these days. I'm a fan of the brand and the company, but I'll have to say "no thanks" to these offerings as they're shown.
Like many (but not all, I'm sure) of us here, I'm of the opinion that some of the best and most interesting Fender products over the last 5-10 years have been coming out of Fender Japan. That isn't good if you're Fender USA. It isn't 1962 and they aren't the only game in town.
My hope (I know I'm not alone here) has long been that Fender would launch a full-throated vintage "inspired" line of basses covering the '50s, '60s and '70s classics, but without being married to the specs of those basses. Without offering a "modern" bass with modernist hardware active electronics, etc., they could easily offer:
*Roasted body and neck options (or just make it standard)
*Truss rod adjustment at neck (where appropriate...'70s reissues with bullet truss rods excluded here)
*Flatter neck radius
*Satin finished neck
*Binding, binding and blocks, fretless schemes
*Wider variety of custom/unique colors (custom metallics, matching headstocks, etc.) without being too crazy, etc. - there are SOOO many great colors that would be extremely popular that Fender has all but forgotten when it comes to USA vintage basses.
*Even if at a premium cost....light weight bodies, rosewood fingerboards, etc.
For me, 3-tone sunburn, black, white, etc. just isn't interesting at all anymore (and hasten't been for decades). Sticky necks and basses that have to be disassembled for small tweaks isn't acceptable at this point. I fully realize that some of the options above might push the envelope of streamlining production and may challenge profitability, but do you want to make a ton of stuff that you may have to heavily discount or sell less of because of low demand, or should you make an exciting, dynamic product line that, while stretching the bounds of conform, may bring a LOT of sidelined enthusiasts back into your camp? I guess Fender has placed their bet.
As it is, I can get all of the things I'm looking for above from someone other than Fender. And while I could easily go the Fender Custom Shop route, I see no value (for me....that is) in paying $4-6K (or more) for a paint job and a bass that still weights 9.5-10lbs, which is where I'm seeing a LOT of Fender Custom Shop basses come in at these days. I'm a fan of the brand and the company, but I'll have to say "no thanks" to these offerings as they're shown.
Finally! I have been waiting a long time for this announcement.
Personally, I am disappointed that there is no early '60s Jazz Bass with an unbound neck and maybe even stack knobs in the lineup. Also, I miss a sunburst '60s Precision, the most iconic Fender bass in my opinion.
Personally, I am disappointed that there is no early '60s Jazz Bass with an unbound neck and maybe even stack knobs in the lineup. Also, I miss a sunburst '60s Precision, the most iconic Fender bass in my opinion.
It's labeled "Vintage" so it must be very good, right? I can feel the "mojo" through my body just looking at those beautiful pictures. 
Hope they do Lake Placid Blue like they did for the Squire a few years back! Loved that color!
There was a thread about this. Some people can get away with not taking the neck off, some can't. My pickguard doesn't have a notch and my P bass doesn't have a channel anyway so I have to unscrew the bolts, tilt the neck up and tweak the truss rod. After loosening the strings and putting a capo on beforehand, of course. Rinse and repeat.
Probably sunburst will have dots, others colors blocks?
I think, since they have templates from 60th anni j bass - it will be that bass with different colors and tuning machines.
Since the list is really incomplete, and few mentions that is lacking Jaguar (one of the popular models in last years due to avant/alter/indie) I will wait for the update.
So when we have more details, photos etc I will decide if I want to buy and justify wait for J-bass with blocks.
Shame the list not mentions some 70 j and p bass :/ I really wanted some bound blocks J-bass "from 70s" since recently that aesthetique speaks to me. I will change pickups anyway to Barts, so...
No I don't know If the wait was worth it or I will save money for modulus VJ4 with wood fretboard. IDK.
*TIPS INVESTOR HAT* So will buy some CHF, and wait recesion in eUrope will make me "richier" he he.
Looking forward to a video review of the basses, Empire Music do good reviews.
Yeah, that Gentleman do fair job reviewing, even that I was not sure that CS was justified by him, in his hands all that high tier basses sound good (AO and CS) and he is a real sales person.
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The big change between this and the AO range will be in the price
