fender rumble 100

but doing thath is not cheaper than buying the 200w combo
i know is not cheaper ... but if u can get the head now from Sweetwater they might be able to give u a great deal since guitar center is offering a 20%off on no on sale items ... let say u can get the head from Sweetwater for $269.00 or something like that , then try to borrow a cab while u save at least a $100 for a used cab ... just saying in the end it will be a bit more $$$ but if the 100w combo is not enough then , within that price range it will be hard to get something more powerful that that !!! a used 200w combo or a tc bg250 could be options too
 
The combination of being at ankle-blasting height and having a mid scoop means it will be hard to hear in a band context if you have acoustic drums and a guitarist with a decently powerful rig. I'd go for the 500w combo or consider the head separate with a couple of 1x12 cabs, ideally 1x15s. Beware that mid scoop though, I know I seem like a downer but it's there and I always recommend playing the amp in a band context while it's still in the return policy period.
 
That would probably be enough for acoustic gigs, or if you all don't play really loud rock or something. It'd probably do great in your rehearsal space too. If you want to play louder, bigger rooms, or heavier music then you'll want to add an extra cab or get the standard 500 watt head with 2 2x10s or a 4x10 or something like that. It's all about filling your musical needs.
 
One thing I learned in this decade is there is more variance in worship bands and muscians than most others. So it can be difficult in giving experience as advice.

For my church, the pastor believes the message in the lyrics is what's important, and the musicians are there to fill background (and help diguise some missed notes by the choir). So a Rumble 100 is fine in my case, and I even use a 50-watt amp most of the time with either a single or pair 12" cab.

Weak 40-watts can be an issue for the main adult choir, but not with the children's choir. Weak 40-watt for me is my Ampeg ba-110. That thing is weak with the sealed cab. I feel it needs to be around 60-watts to be competitive to other 40-watt 10" combos.

The key for me is not so much the wattage, but the speaker. I would need a dual 10" to make it work, but a 12" or higher is fine at my church.

That Ampeg is great for practice at the church, and the Rumble 40 would be better, imo. We're only needing to hear ourselves, and small form-factor and weight is nice. I don't leave my gear there, btw. Nobody leaves personal gear there. The church has three amps but designed for acoustic guitars. Two are Acoustics, and one is a Genz-Benz. I am afraid of exceeding max excursions of the speaker once too many times.

The drummer only shows up at the late mass on Sundays. And he knows to hit lightly... amazing!

ETA: no PA support for bass, piano, violin (when she's available), electric guitar, or drummer. Electric guitar uses a small Fender champ or similar. Only the singers, and one or two acoustic players (who's volume is reduced compared to the singers on the mixer). Small mixer, and no available channels left either.
 
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I love my Rumble 100. It's great for moderate volume settings and medium sized bars. However, it just won't hold up to heavy drums and downtuned guitar in a large room or gym.

Two homebrew 12" cabs and a Peavey Nitrobass head get it done for the same money though.
 
lets say I have 400€ need the best watt/euro ratio

If you are over on the other side of the pond, I'd recommend looking at Ashdown and other EU manufacturers. You should be able to get more bang for your buck and get a 200W combo. However, it also comes down to whether it has the sound you like.

I suspect you should be able to get a lightly used Fender 200W Rumble in your price range.

More importantly, I don't think you've answered the question on PA support or not. My apologies if I missed your reply.
 
I use mine to practice along with my guitar player and, although he is very loud, it cuts through with no problem. I have my doubts about using it with the addition of a drummer (when we get one), but that's what my Hartke LH1000 amp is for. I think a lot of owners of Rumble 100's use them, as I do, for practice at home or small settings.
 
Not any offense meant here. That's how they describe themselves to me. I am fortunate to be playing with them. Taking my Rumble 40 to a rehearsal in about 15 minutes. It too holds up. (no drummer, only piano, horns, vocalist). My Rumble v3's are so easy to move and sound fine.
I too play once in awhile with the same groups, and yes..they are legit as in probably playing more chord changes in one night than most "other" bass players do in their whole career.:laugh: