Fender Rumble 500w (2x10) combo, can I add a GK 1x15 Goldline

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Eedwards7891 said:
I have a fender rumble 500w combo with 2x10's. I'm looking for a cab to hook up as an extension.

The manual says I need to find something with NO LESS than 8 ohms, and it recommends 700w (continuous) and 350w program.

This Is my first amp I've ever had that is large enough to extend , and I'm not sure about the wattage requirements . I know the rumble can't handle anything less than 8 ohms .

I found a GK 1x15 Goldline cabinet locally at a pawn shop. The specs I found show 8 ohms at 600w, 300 program. Could I power this speaker with my Fender Rumble 500?

Thanks in advance
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If the 15 is a good deal, I say go for it! Your ears will tell you if it's a good fit when combined with your Fender Rumble 500. It should seriously increase your volume and presence on the stage, and in small to medium rooms if necessary. As always with any speaker setup being powered by a bass amplifier, it's important to not push the speakers too hard as they can become damaged, but again your ears will tell you if you're pushing them too far. Best of luck, hopefully the 15 works out and fattens up your bottom end and give you some more output!
 
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If you find that the GK speaker is less than mighty*, I have that cab with a 40 lb 600w Kappa LF speaker in it and it is amazing, now I would get something neo and actually 300w handling. *the original series was a budget competitor to the other popular metal cone speakers and 300w was an optimistic rating. A 500w full spike could blow it, but fortunately you'll be sharing that load with the 2 Fender speakers. Replacing the speaker can be mucho fun, because a better speaker is better. is it the original gold colored speaker?
 
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Eedwards7891 said:
I am playing live outdoors with this setup more and more. Initially, we were playing indoors through a p a , but now we don' have the p a , and I am having to push the amp pretty hard.

It wouldn' be running at 80-90% all the time, but I don' want to risk damaging the amp or speakers . I Am unfamiliar with the wattage and how that affects the configuration with the combo amp and speakers.
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Well if you have to run at that high a level, you're better off having the extra cab. Just be sure it is an 8 Ohm cab.
Half the amp's power will go to the 15. 1/4 of the amp's power will go to each of the 10s.
The 15 will probably be the limiting factor in how high you can run your amp regardless of it's thermal and arguably correct power rating. The key is to be able to hear your 15 well enough to listen for any signs of stress.

Covering a gig where you used to have PA support that you no longer have, but using the same amps, is not an ideal situation. At some point you need to evaluate if you have the right tools for the job.

FYI, running a knob at 8 does not mean you are getting out 80% of the amp's power.
I'm surprised that you haven't run into problems with the Fender rig alone at gigs like this without a PA. Amps really should not be run that close to the upper end.

But hopefully the addition if the 15 will take you in the right direction. There just are no guarantees that it will until you try.

Good Luck.
 
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if the cab works properly and is a good price = yes i will work ...

and it will get your 2x10 combo up higher so You can hear it better .. !!! and get those 500 watts going .

playing outside is hard for bass ... is our low freqs just wander off and spread out ... a little pA support outside helps a lot . !
 
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BassBrass said:
If you find that the GK speaker is less than mighty*, I have that cab with a 40 lb 600w Kappa LF speaker in it and it is amazing, now I would get something neo and actually 300w handling. *the original series was a budget competitor to the other popular metal cone speakers and 300w was an optimistic rating. A 500w full spike could blow it, but fortunately you'll be sharing that load with the 2 Fender speakers. Replacing the speaker can be mucho fun, because a better speaker is better. is it the original gold colored speaker?
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Yes. It is the original. It looks pretty food, except the carpeting , yuck, lol.
 
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BassBrass said:
If you find that the GK speaker is less than mighty*, I have that cab with a 40 lb 600w Kappa LF speaker in it and it is amazing, now I would get something neo and actually 300w handling. *the original series was a budget competitor to the other popular metal cone speakers and 300w was an optimistic rating. A 500w full spike could blow it, but fortunately you'll be sharing that load with the 2 Fender speakers. Replacing the speaker can be mucho fun, because a better speaker is better. is it the original gold colored speaker?
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What is a good brand to go with , as far as replacement speakers go? It's not a bad idea to look at uograding it to the EXACT specs of my Rumble, and going with a neo
 
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Eedwards7891 said:
Update- I went ahead and got it . I talked them down to $60. I'm taking it to practice tonight, I'll do another update. Thanks all for your advice.
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Update : it lives! Haha! It definitely adds some low end , it sounds way better than I expected. All in all, a great sixty bucks , even if it looks crazy .

Also, I'm not running at 90 percent, the master is close to the 2 o clock position, and the gain is at 12.
 
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Eedwards7891 said:
Update : it lives! Haha! It definitely adds some low end , it sounds way better than I expected. All in all, a great sixty bucks , even if it looks crazy .

Also, I'm not running at 90 percent, the master is close to the 2 o clock position, and the gain is at 12.
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Eedwards7891 said:
Update : it lives! Haha! It definitely adds some low end , it sounds way better than I expected. All in all, a great sixty bucks , even if it looks crazy .

Also, I'm not running at 90 percent, the master is close to the 2 o clock position, and the gain is at 12.
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Great, also the Fender is now at your ear level and that helps allot too. Noon and 2 is a good reliable place to be for a med loud band. If you need louder, go to 800w. Since the links are working, I would eventually replace with this, it is full range and rated loud, over 100db, 450-900w - Speaker Detail | Eminence Speaker The Lappa LF I have needs a tweeter and mid range speaker cab added to it, it doesn't do much above 2000hz. I used it with a Peavey Tour 2/10 with 2 Deltas at 350w each. At the time I didn't trust neo speakers but the thing is probably over 60 lbs and not fun carrying up or down stairs. With an 800w amp I never worried about stressing speakers adding up to over 1200w handling and I could overcome the guitarist and his 40w 2/12Marshal.
 
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Great, also the Fender is now at your ear level and that helps allot too. Noon and 2 is a good reliable place to be for a med loud band. If you need louder, go to 800w. Since the links are working, I would eventually replace with this, it is full range and rated loud, over 100db, 450-900w - Speaker Detail | Eminence Speaker The Lappa LF I have needs a tweeter and mid range speaker cab added to it, it doesn't do much above 2000hz. I used it with a Peavey Tour 2/10 with 2 Deltas at 350w each. At the time I didn't trust neo speakers but the thing is probably over 60 lbs and not fun carrying up or down stairs. With an 800w amp I never worried about stressing speakers adding up to over 1200w handling and I could overcome the guitarist and his 40w 2/12Marshal.
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I was wondering how upgrading a speaker could go if you went above the wattage rating of the amp, as in my amp is rated for 700w 350 rms. If I put an 8 ohm speaker rated at , say, 800, would that just mean it could handle up to an 800w spike ?

Thank you again for all your help. Attached is a picture of how my amp was set last night at practice
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Eedwards7891 said:
I was wondering how upgrading a speaker could go if you went above the wattage rating of the amp, as in my amp is rated for 700w 350 rms. If I put an 8 ohm speaker rated at , say, 800, would that just mean it could handle up to an 800w spike ?

Thank you again for all your help. Attached is a picture of how my amp was set last night at practice
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Looks like a cutting eq and just a quarter preamp (gain), very conservative. The drive on may or may not make it seem louder and you might like the sound with more pre and less drive.
An 800w speaker has a easier time handling a 800w spike than a 400w...and a 350w amp has no problem driving a 800w speaker. I also have a 1200w Sigma 18" in an old Peavey box and I don't think I've ever given it any stress at all. I bought that after seeing Bill Lazwell's rig in Painkiller. 2 /18s stacked horizontally with 4 12's on top of that, multiple marshal amps. But he was going down to -20 cycles with a Whammy pedal and you could feel it in your stomach, approaching the brown note.
 
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BassBrass said:
Looks like a cutting eq and just a quarter preamp (gain), very conservative. The drive on may or may not make it seem louder and you might like the sound with more pre and less drive.
An 800w speaker has a easier time handling a 800w spike than a 400w...and a 350w amp has no problem driving a 800w speaker. I also have a 1200w Sigma 18" in an old Peavey box and I don't think I've ever given it any stress at all. I bought that after seeing Bill Lazwell's rig in Painkiller. 2 /18s stacked horizontally with 4 12's on top of that, multiple marshal amps. But he was going down to -20 cycles with a Whammy pedal and you could feel it in your stomach, approaching the brown note.
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UPDATE: We had practice last night, And I adjusted the settings to add more preamp and a little less drive and slightly more master , and it sounds WAY better ! This was the first time we could clearly hear the bass in all of the screaming guitars and drums! I still didn' push the master (or any other parameters) past the 2 o clock position , and it sounded great! The amp didn' get hot, the cables didn't melt, and all was good! Thank you so much for your help !
 
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Eedwards7891 said:
UPDATE: We had practice last night, And I adjusted the settings to add more preamp and a little less drive and slightly more master , and it sounds WAY better ! This was the first time we could clearly hear the bass in all of the screaming guitars and drums! I still didn' push the master (or any other parameters) past the 2 o clock position , and it sounded great! The amp didn' get hot, the cables didn't melt, and all was good! Thank you so much for your help !
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your welcome. Actually these new combos (I have an Ampeg 110vIII) are very good, but I associate a built in distortion circuit with a toy, a consumer product, I wish they had saved money and added an effects send/return. I choose what overdrive I want and I've never heard one in-amp that is worth a dang. Maybe put a tube in the pre and jack the pre, that's the organic to do it. btw, a VT pedal is a good effect for being heard through guitars. Has control of the eq, adds low end if necessary, and adds natural drive to kick whatever eq curve sounds good. A compressor can help punch through too.
 
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