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Replay full race hours later/next day. Fast forward through commercial, rewind & replay good parts.
As Jeff Scott said, depends on the time ESPN broadcasts the race. I record them all but try to watch in realtime.
Hamilton can change teams all he wants. He’s not the best driver on Benz. He won’t be the best in a Ferrari either.
He does have the best walk-in clothes though. RB going to be unstoppable this year again. I have no problem with that. Precedent. Good to see Ferrari and Mac running so well.
And great to see Ric in a seat.
He does have the best walk-in clothes though. RB going to be unstoppable this year again. I have no problem with that. Precedent. Good to see Ferrari and Mac running so well.
And great to see Ric in a seat.
I watched a replay on F1TV, not the most exciting race but a solid beginning for what should be an interesting season.
I was disappointed that Martin didn't spend any time talking with Nick.Watched this morning.
Must say a certain somebody disappointed me
How 'bout Oliver Bearman? What a story! Finishes top-10 in his first-ever F1 race, driving for one of the biggest and most historic teams in the sport... all at 18 years of age. All while Bottas and Danny Rick go for a leisurely drive in the back.
And kudos to Sainz for making it to the track the day after having his appendix removed, and for driving in two practice sessions beforehand. What a stud.
Piastri had to have learned a bunch in his battle with Hamilton. Between McLaren's development, Mercedes regression and Ferrari bumbling around as usual, we'll have a fun time watching the race for second place this season.
Albon drove his butt off at Jeddah. He had to deal with a lotta poop, mainly Kevin Magnussen who was a nuisance to several drivers. Williams is far ahead of where they were five years ago. The Logan Sergeant Experience should be wrapped up... same for Lance Stroll; time to give others a shot in those cars.
The fight for worst on the grid currently appears to be between Sauber and Alpine. Certainly disappointing to see the Visa Cash App RB team in the back as well.
Eager to see who will take Lewis' place at Mercedes next year, especially with the rumor mill in full swing. Sainz... Alonso... Max???
And kudos to Sainz for making it to the track the day after having his appendix removed, and for driving in two practice sessions beforehand. What a stud.
Piastri had to have learned a bunch in his battle with Hamilton. Between McLaren's development, Mercedes regression and Ferrari bumbling around as usual, we'll have a fun time watching the race for second place this season.
Albon drove his butt off at Jeddah. He had to deal with a lotta poop, mainly Kevin Magnussen who was a nuisance to several drivers. Williams is far ahead of where they were five years ago. The Logan Sergeant Experience should be wrapped up... same for Lance Stroll; time to give others a shot in those cars.
The fight for worst on the grid currently appears to be between Sauber and Alpine. Certainly disappointing to see the Visa Cash App RB team in the back as well.
Eager to see who will take Lewis' place at Mercedes next year, especially with the rumor mill in full swing. Sainz... Alonso... Max???
Yeah, Jeddah was a much more exciting race than Bahrain was. Glad to see Bearman get 7th for his first time out, especially on such short notice.
I would expect that if Lance were to be "retired", daddy would take his money somewhere else.
I would expect that if Lance were to be "retired", daddy would take his money somewhere else.
If this is true I hope Adrian Newey leaves the team to go elsewhere and takes Max with him (Ferrari would be nice
).Imagine that, Lewis and Max in the same team!!!
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SAO PAULO — Former driver Felipe Massa said he’s filed a lawsuit in London against auto racing governing body the FIA, series owner Formula One Management and Bernie Ecclestone to try and claim the 2008 title.
Massa added on Monday he was also seeking a minimum of $82 million in damages, a document obtained by The Associated Press showed. That amount included prize money he lost and other potential deals he would have obtained as a F1 champion.
Massa has claimed since last year he was the “rightful” 2008 champion due to the incident known as “Crashgate.” The 42-year-old Brazilian, who never won the drivers’ championship, was runner-up to Lewis Hamilton by one point.
Former Ferrari and Williams driver Massa said in a statement his case would be heard at the King’s Bench Division of the High Court.
His decision came after months of preparatory steps that included his lawyers asking auto racing bodies to reply to his public allegations of a breach of contract.
“I always said I was going to fight until the end,” Massa said in the statement. “Since the FIA and FOM decided not to do anything, we will seek to right this historical injustice in court. The matter is now for our lawyers and they are fully authorized to do whatever is necessary so justice in sport is served.”
His allegations relate to the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, where Nelson Piquet Jr. crashed deliberately to help then-Renault teammate Fernando Alonso win the race.
The Renault team was eventually punished but the results stood in the 15th race of 18 that year. Massa never got closer to the title.
Last year, former F1 boss Ecclestone said in an interview with website F1 Insider that he learned through the course of 2008 that Piquet Jr. crashed deliberately. He added he chose not to investigate the incident until the season ended, when it was too late to change the standings.
Piquet Jr.’s crash came when Massa was in front in Singapore. A safety car was brought in, which squandered his lead and gave Alonso a clear advantage as he was the only driver who had already made a pit stop to refuel. Massa went on to finish out of the points in 13th place after a calamitous pit stop, while Hamilton finished third in that race.
Massa’s filing said he wants “a declaration that the FIA acted in breach of its own regulations in failing to investigate the circumstances of the crash promptly in 2008” and “a declaration that if the FIA had not acted in breach of its own regulations, it would have canceled or adjusted the results of the Singapore Grand Prix with the consequence that Mr Massa would have won the drivers’ championship in 2008.
“The defendants’ actions caused significant financial loss to the claimant,” the document added. News about the race-fixing scandal involving Piquet Jr. emerged the following year.
The driver’s filing also said the FIA’s failure to promptly investigate Crashgate “constituted a most serious form of wrongdoing.”
Ecclestone told the British Press Association he agreed the case should go to court.
“If he had asked me, I would have said it was the complete right thing to do, to sue, and to let an English judge decide what is right and wrong,” Ecclestone said. “I cannot say anything about the outcome and what will happen. From his point of view, it is better that an English judge comes up with a verdict. It will be of more help for him.”
The FIA told the AP it will not comment.
The AP has also asked FOM for comment.
Massa said in an interview with the AP in August that he had more evidence of wrongdoing to support his case. He also said then that he was considering filing other cases related to the same incident in other countries.
Massa was met with silence in the paddock at the last Brazilian Grand Prix, as his case against the FIA and FOM loomed. At the time, he claimed he had a final deadline of Nov. 15 to get answers from auto racing bodies before taking any action against them.
“Many drivers do support me in this, but they don’t want to speak. I don’t regret any of this, justice is a bigger good here,” he said then.
Jean Todt, a former team principal at Ferrari during Massa’s tenure and an ex-president of the FIA, said in an interview with Italian newspaper “La Stampa” in December that he also believed the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix should have been canceled due to Crashgate.
SAO PAULO — Former driver Felipe Massa said he’s filed a lawsuit in London against auto racing governing body the FIA, series owner Formula One Management and Bernie Ecclestone to try and claim the 2008 title.
Massa added on Monday he was also seeking a minimum of $82 million in damages, a document obtained by The Associated Press showed. That amount included prize money he lost and other potential deals he would have obtained as a F1 champion.
Massa has claimed since last year he was the “rightful” 2008 champion due to the incident known as “Crashgate.” The 42-year-old Brazilian, who never won the drivers’ championship, was runner-up to Lewis Hamilton by one point.
Former Ferrari and Williams driver Massa said in a statement his case would be heard at the King’s Bench Division of the High Court.
His decision came after months of preparatory steps that included his lawyers asking auto racing bodies to reply to his public allegations of a breach of contract.
“I always said I was going to fight until the end,” Massa said in the statement. “Since the FIA and FOM decided not to do anything, we will seek to right this historical injustice in court. The matter is now for our lawyers and they are fully authorized to do whatever is necessary so justice in sport is served.”
His allegations relate to the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, where Nelson Piquet Jr. crashed deliberately to help then-Renault teammate Fernando Alonso win the race.
The Renault team was eventually punished but the results stood in the 15th race of 18 that year. Massa never got closer to the title.
Last year, former F1 boss Ecclestone said in an interview with website F1 Insider that he learned through the course of 2008 that Piquet Jr. crashed deliberately. He added he chose not to investigate the incident until the season ended, when it was too late to change the standings.
Piquet Jr.’s crash came when Massa was in front in Singapore. A safety car was brought in, which squandered his lead and gave Alonso a clear advantage as he was the only driver who had already made a pit stop to refuel. Massa went on to finish out of the points in 13th place after a calamitous pit stop, while Hamilton finished third in that race.
Massa’s filing said he wants “a declaration that the FIA acted in breach of its own regulations in failing to investigate the circumstances of the crash promptly in 2008” and “a declaration that if the FIA had not acted in breach of its own regulations, it would have canceled or adjusted the results of the Singapore Grand Prix with the consequence that Mr Massa would have won the drivers’ championship in 2008.
“The defendants’ actions caused significant financial loss to the claimant,” the document added. News about the race-fixing scandal involving Piquet Jr. emerged the following year.
The driver’s filing also said the FIA’s failure to promptly investigate Crashgate “constituted a most serious form of wrongdoing.”
Ecclestone told the British Press Association he agreed the case should go to court.
“If he had asked me, I would have said it was the complete right thing to do, to sue, and to let an English judge decide what is right and wrong,” Ecclestone said. “I cannot say anything about the outcome and what will happen. From his point of view, it is better that an English judge comes up with a verdict. It will be of more help for him.”
The FIA told the AP it will not comment.
The AP has also asked FOM for comment.
Massa said in an interview with the AP in August that he had more evidence of wrongdoing to support his case. He also said then that he was considering filing other cases related to the same incident in other countries.
Massa was met with silence in the paddock at the last Brazilian Grand Prix, as his case against the FIA and FOM loomed. At the time, he claimed he had a final deadline of Nov. 15 to get answers from auto racing bodies before taking any action against them.
“Many drivers do support me in this, but they don’t want to speak. I don’t regret any of this, justice is a bigger good here,” he said then.
Jean Todt, a former team principal at Ferrari during Massa’s tenure and an ex-president of the FIA, said in an interview with Italian newspaper “La Stampa” in December that he also believed the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix should have been canceled due to Crashgate.
Gunther being the man interviewing the WINNERS...WHAT????
Good call.....He seemed happy
Good call.....He seemed happy
Alonso's penalty is BS.
Just because George has a habit of choking toward the end of races when the pressure's on him, that's not someone else's fault. Weak.
Don't you know Toto wishes he had Max, Sainz or Lando in his cars right now?
Just because George has a habit of choking toward the end of races when the pressure's on him, that's not someone else's fault. Weak.
Don't you know Toto wishes he had Max, Sainz or Lando in his cars right now?
No talk of last weekends race? I only caught the replay on Sunday morning.
Have all races switched to Saturday?
So Japan...Red Bull one two punch.
Carlos finally passes Leclerc and gets his rightful podium!
I wanted our Canadian boy to get a point...but he could not pass Yuki...which would have been bad for Japan
There was some good mid field battles...
I do wish Netflix could be concurrent, beacause those battles are what make the races so exciting.
Not really Max doing a Parade around the course.
He must find it dull at some point ?? Did Lewis before him?
Anyway ... I enjoyed what I saw
Have all races switched to Saturday?
So Japan...Red Bull one two punch.
Carlos finally passes Leclerc and gets his rightful podium!
I wanted our Canadian boy to get a point...but he could not pass Yuki...which would have been bad for Japan
There was some good mid field battles...
I do wish Netflix could be concurrent, beacause those battles are what make the races so exciting.
Not really Max doing a Parade around the course.
He must find it dull at some point ?? Did Lewis before him?
Anyway ... I enjoyed what I saw
Barely, just barely, related to the thread subject. I lived in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia for 4 years in the early '70's. Three of those years I lived much of the year in a dorm at the International School in Juffair, Bahrain.
Barely back on topic, some of us teens and adults used to like watching camel racing. Those were alot of fun. Mingling with the jockeys, owners, and crowd. Yeah, I got spit on by some camels LOL. Didn't understand a word of it, but I'm pretty sure there was s...talking going on LOL.
Motor cycle racing was another rather popular thing among Bahrain and Saudi folk. One of the students in school had a race bike (he/his parents lived in Bahrain) and participated alot. He was good, too. Never went to any official competitions, though.
See...barely race related LOL. Just funny both of those countries, where I resided, were mentioned in the same sentence.
Ok, back to the originally scheduled thread...
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