Yep, my understanding is that it did indeed change. All of the 4-strings now get the 1 5/8" nut, with the only exceptions being the JB and the ASAT Bass.
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G&L Pricing
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Yep, my understanding is that it did indeed change. All of the 4-strings now get the 1 5/8" nut, with the only exceptions being the JB and the ASAT Bass.
all of the BTO’s I see on reverb with a ‘23 manufacture date say 1.5”. Is that still an option, or are these most likely 2022 orders made in 2023?
I'm fuzzy on the 2023 price list release date, but I want to say it hit in March? So some 2023's could have it.
I also wouldn't put it past G&L to say one thing and do another. Here's a fine example of a bass that shouldn't be possible in 2023, but it has a June 2023 serial number... I assume this was something like a build for an endorsing artist who didn't take it for whatever reason, but who knows? Rules were made to be broken at G&L.
I should finish the thought: Rules were made to be broken at G&L... unless it's a particular rule that you want broken. LOL
I've had to tell customers "no" on things in the past, and some have taken it upon themselves to let Dave McLaren know that they can't get what they want built... next thing you know, it can get built.
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Hey, Brad - sorry, I just saw this!
I think the photo dump was just that, they had some photos to share. They haven't been sending them to me in clumps, so I think that's just a social media thing.
I did make a pretty big stink when they announced they were going to start selling direct, so they might have been trying to make nice by doing some advertising for me.
BTW - I'm back in this thread because I discovered earlier today that my email address had somehow gotten deleted from the form on our website that sends us quote requests for BTO basses. If you've submitted a quote and I didn't respond, I'm very sorry about that. I never received the request (through no fault of yours).
I'm not sure how long that situation went on, but I think quite a while.
It's back to working, so freel free to resubmit if you're still looking for a quote. I'm very sorry to make you do that twice!
I'm not sure how long that situation went on, but I think quite a while.
It's back to working, so freel free to resubmit if you're still looking for a quote. I'm very sorry to make you do that twice!
Hey, Brad - sorry, I just saw this!
I think the photo dump was just that, they had some photos to share. They haven't been sending them to me in clumps, so I think that's just a social media thing.
I did make a pretty big stink when they announced they were going to start selling direct, so they might have been trying to make nice by doing some advertising for me.
No problem, just an interesting thing I noticed, thanks for the answer. I don't know if it's really happening, but lumping multiple instruments from one dealer definitely makes it look like more is getting done!
G&L just announced their 2024 prices, and I've updated post#1 in this thread to reflect the latest pricing.
At first glance, it looks like most models got a $300-$400 price DROP. However, it also appears that the hardshell case is now a $180 upcharge, so take that with a grain of salt. It's still an overall price drop, but really more like $120-$220 in an apples-to-apples sense.
EDIT - this is a legit $300-400 price drop for the BTO line. As with the previous price list, a gig bag is included by default and a hardshell case can be substituted for $180. I didn't have my thinking cap on when I originally posted this!
Other than that, here are some outstanding highlights:
1) The M-2000 & M-2500 models are back!
2) Empress is back, AND it's an official option for the first time ever. It's always been an off-the-menu sort of thing in the past, but now it's actually on the price list.
3) Block Inlays on the fretboard and body binding are back! Neck binding is not, that's still a Custom Shop thing.
4) Some nut width and radius options are back. 7.5" radius and 1 3/4" nut width for 4-strings do NOT seem to be back for whatever reason.
5) Fret options and Graph-Tech nut & string retainer are back.
6) The CLF L1K/L2K and Series 750 basses are now BTO models. In the past, you had to go Custom Shop to modify those models.
And here are some questions I've posed to G&L:
1) The L-2000 and L-2500 seem to have gone away from the BTO price list. I'm not sure if that is an oversight or if those models are now obsolete? Or maybe they're Custom Shop only? I don't want to freak anyone out about this, so please sit tight and remain calm while I await further information on this.
2) With the hardshell case being a $180 option now, can a bass be ordered without a case? Or can a bass be ordered with the $80 gig bag instead? That's not clear from the price list.
EDIT - this is a legit $300-400 price drop for the BTO line. As with the previous price list, a gig bag is included by default and a hardshell case can be substituted for $180. I didn't have my thinking cap on when I originally posted this!
Other than that, here are some outstanding highlights:
1) The M-2000 & M-2500 models are back!
2) Empress is back, AND it's an official option for the first time ever. It's always been an off-the-menu sort of thing in the past, but now it's actually on the price list.
3) Block Inlays on the fretboard and body binding are back! Neck binding is not, that's still a Custom Shop thing.
4) Some nut width and radius options are back. 7.5" radius and 1 3/4" nut width for 4-strings do NOT seem to be back for whatever reason.
5) Fret options and Graph-Tech nut & string retainer are back.
6) The CLF L1K/L2K and Series 750 basses are now BTO models. In the past, you had to go Custom Shop to modify those models.
And here are some questions I've posed to G&L:
1) The L-2000 and L-2500 seem to have gone away from the BTO price list. I'm not sure if that is an oversight or if those models are now obsolete? Or maybe they're Custom Shop only? I don't want to freak anyone out about this, so please sit tight and remain calm while I await further information on this.
2) With the hardshell case being a $180 option now, can a bass be ordered without a case? Or can a bass be ordered with the $80 gig bag instead? That's not clear from the price list.
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A price drop? That's what I get for being impatient.
I like the M2K being back. One may be at my house a lot faster than I planned. Edit #2: or not, as I'd like 7.5" radius.
Edit: I assume the MJ-4 is still custom shop only?
I like the M2K being back. One may be at my house a lot faster than I planned. Edit #2: or not, as I'd like 7.5" radius.
Edit: I assume the MJ-4 is still custom shop only?
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That's great news about the M-series! 
They've always been the (sort of) hidden gems of the G&L line. And that's got to be an oversight on the L-series from the BTO line. If the L's go away, they'd kind of stop being G&L...
They've always been the (sort of) hidden gems of the G&L line. And that's got to be an oversight on the L-series from the BTO line. If the L's go away, they'd kind of stop being G&L...
And that's got to be an oversight on the L-series from the BTO line. If the L's go away, they'd kind of stop being G&L...
I would argue it's not the L going away, but now you have to order it as a CLF.
Fair point, but if so it kind of consigns it to being a historical replica item rather than a living, mod-able instrument. (Now back to playing my 750 series CLF L-2500!)
G&L just announced their 2024 prices, and I've updated post#1 in this thread to reflect the latest pricing.
At first glance, it looks like most models got a $300-$400 price DROP. However, it also appears that the hardshell case is now a $180 upcharge, so take that with a grain of salt. It's still an overall price drop, but really more like $120-$220 in an apples-to-apples sense.
Other than that, here are some outstanding highlights:
1) The M-2000 & M-2500 models are back!
2) Empress is back, AND it's an official option for the first time ever. It's always been an off-the-menu sort of thing in the past, but now it's actually on the price list.
3) Block Inlays on the fretboard and body binding are back! Neck binding is not, that's still a Custom Shop thing.
4) Some nut width and radius options are back. 7.5" radius and 1 3/4" nut width for 4-strings do NOT seem to be back for whatever reason.
5) Fret options and Graph-Tech nut & string retainer are back.
6) The CLF L1K/L2K and Series 750 basses are now BTO models. In the past, you had to go Custom Shop to modify those models.
And here are some questions I've posed to G&L:
1) The L-2000 and L-2500 seem to have gone away from the BTO price list. I'm not sure if that is an oversight or if those models are now obsolete? Or maybe they're Custom Shop only? I don't want to freak anyone out about this, so please sit tight and remain calm while I await further information on this.
2) With the hardshell case being a $180 option now, can a bass be ordered without a case? Or can a bass be ordered with the $80 gig bag instead? That's not clear from the price list.
OK, I got some answers!
It's a tad shocking, but the L-2000 and L-2500 are indeed no longer available as BTO models. The rational is that the sales of CLF versions far outpaced sales of the non-CLF version (thanks to Sweetwater, I presume). Also, the CLF version now comes with a satin neck finish instead of gloss, so they feel like the CLF version is only going to become that much more popular. Dave did add that this may be a temporary state of affairs, but it is where they're at right now.
The nut width and radius will continue to work the way they have in the past. No charge if you take the model's default neck profile, but there's an upcharge is you deviate from that. The 1 3/4" nut width and 7.5" radius for 4-strings are indeed not currently available for order. Dave says this also may be a temporary thing, and it was once again driven by research into popularity (or lack thereof) of those options.
I'm still a little fuzzy on the case situation, so I've asked a follow-up question about that. Still waiting on a reply. But if I read the first message correctly, it looks like you can now order a BTO bass with no case. Then the gig bag and hardshell are optional add-ons. I think that's probably incorrect, but that's how I read it... or maybe the gig bag is what you get at no charge, and the hardshell case is an optional $180 substitution. That second one sounds more likely to me.
Thank you for this info. The M2K has to wait, but the SB-2 may be my next order.
One other question: can a maple fretless fingerboard be ordered on a BTO bass?
(My first guess is no since it isn't listed as an option.)
Makes me glad I ordered my JB when I did, for it appears I slid in at the right time on the 7.5" radius!
I got clarification on the case situation. It remains the same as it was with the previous price list: a gig bag is included at no charge, and a hardshell case can be substituted for $180.
Thus, this is in fact a legit $300-400 price drop for the BTO line. Awesome sauce!
Thus, this is in fact a legit $300-400 price drop for the BTO line. Awesome sauce!
Since I'm sitting on some now overpriced instruments, I'm going to run a sale to try to quickly move the 5 G&L basses that I currently have in stock. $300 off any/all of them, while supplies last.
2 of the 5 basses are BTO L-2000's, and those can no longer be ordered. So check out those two basses especially!
This is an "automatic" discount on my website which means you don't have to do anything special to make it happen. Just go to any of the basses, add it to the cart, and you should see $300 get knocked off right there in the cart.
2 of the 5 basses are BTO L-2000's, and those can no longer be ordered. So check out those two basses especially!
This is an "automatic" discount on my website which means you don't have to do anything special to make it happen. Just go to any of the basses, add it to the cart, and you should see $300 get knocked off right there in the cart.
It sounds like the L-2000 (the non-CLF version) can once again be ordered. I assume that means the L-2500, too. I'm not sure if this is G&L's official position, but I was told I could take orders for them.
Just a heads up in case you were looking for one of those and I turned you away.
Just a heads up in case you were looking for one of those and I turned you away.