Hard cases now non essential?

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Got this idea from another thread called "Bass amps now non essential?" and did a search first but I've found nothing on it so I thought I start a similar thread on something that has - slightly - become obsolete.

Now, (means these days) when buying any new mid-end or high end bass it always comes with a "hard case". You know this squared vinyl/tolex things, that you have to carry with one handle and not being able to use both hands, say, like a gig bag that's formed like a huge backback. My opinion is, that if you REALLY need the protection of a hard case, you should go with a proper FLIGHT CASE in all instances. OR a properly made gigbag like MONO and the like if you want everyday soft protection agains scratches, rain, or anything else. The "in between" hard cases seems to make no sense anymore. Or at least, less and less If you have to protect it in that hard case, it is to be protected against such things that a flight case will do so much better. And to protect it enough from everyday rehearsal and transporting to a gig, a soft case performs so much better anyway. I e if you handle your bass with case/gig bag so hard that the actual bass will take some serious damage from any kind of hit or drop, chances are that it would do so just as well as with a hard case. And if you have to STOW something upon your bass residing in the case, I doubt a "regular" hard case will keep it up. Then the only thing would be flight cases.

1. Soft gig bag
2. Hard case
3. Flight case

Also, I find soft gig bags more malleable and forming after different shapes of basses and the amount of things than can be stowed into side pockets. Anything in there doesn't rattle around as much as in regular hard cases. And so on and on. Hard cases are very often just tailored to the one and only bass you've got.

By this, I mean "regular" hard case:

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By this I mean a well made soft gig bag:

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And, of course, by this I mean a flight case:
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What's your opinion on this one?
 
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I use only hard cases. I don't see the point of taking a risk of a broken bass.
Well, then it ought to be protected by a flight case don't you think?

That's what I was asking about, if those regular hard cases isn't something ...like ... neither nor. Protection wise. Of course, if you should keep everything vintage and road worn as some of the basses comes as today, the hard case should be worn and dented too... ;)
 
Not any of them protects any instrument from what is most dangerous to them. Not the "broken" bass from dropping, or hitting something hard. No case I've heard of protects the instruments from fast temperature or moisture changes. Things that will do damage the worst to any bass. I e irreparable. And those two things are the enviromental things they're most subjected to, no matter how much care we take in not dropping it, or hitting it. Especially while transporting.
 
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I've always used hard cases for gigs. The one time I decided to try taking my No. 1 bass in a heavy gig bag, someone stacked a couple of guitars in hardcases on top of it at the venue. So, only hard cases.

Like so many other issues, this depends a lot on your situation. I mainly play original rock/metal in an area where the typical gig is four or five bands playing short sets, and often several bands stash gear in an area where we can't keep an eye on it all the time. If I were playing cover gigs where my band was the only one on the bill, I can see how it would be different.
 
I use only hard cases. I don't see the point of taking a risk of a broken bass.

I've seen plenty of basses and guitars get busted up in hard cases. A hard case tends to give you a false sense of security and people end up mistreating them on load in / load out. I think if you played shows with multiple bands where you wouldn't be able to necessarily control access around your gear then forget the hard case and go straight to a flight case.
 
WHat I mean, that if manufacturers should produce any case that should go with the bass, go FLIGHT CASE anyway, or GIG BAG. Flight case for the highest-end basses, and some subcontractors MONO case with branding on for the rest of the mid-level basses.

The thing with flight cases, is that you can form the foam inside yourself. Just buy a square one, and cut at the shape with an exacto knife. On these "hard cases" everything is set in stone, and there's not much variation inside. Also, the soft cloth residing in there is sort of...well... hard. Compare the resiliency/sponginess and softness to the thick foam in any flight case or any mono case padding, you know what I am getting at.

I mean, poke your finger into this yellow padding:
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And feel how "deep" it goes. Not that much on the bottom does it?
Now do the same on this:
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A little more room for catching hard hits, doesn't it? I mean that on these regular hard cases the "soft padding" is thin as wall paper and just a "cover" or for something for the guitar to rest on an keep from scratches. But not any spongy, bouncy schock absorber by any means.
 
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On the other hand, you have these plastic "in-between" cases too, that - I think - SKB cases, and Gator cases started:

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But still no protection like a real flight case, by any means. And those one's Ive encountered, they start to "derail" in a couple of years, with the aluminum corner edges going off, so you have to cram them in, before you can lock it. I e dodgy, and shaky, and a liability. And if you think you can stow things upon these, don't even think of it...
 
As Big Hoss already have said, "false sense of security" with these hard cases. If you have a Mono gig bag, you know that you - sort of - have to take care. A flight case will give you a greater truer sense of security. Not full, that you can throw it from any height, but at least not will give you a false impression. It's pretty safe.
 
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They all have advantages and disadvantages. We had three shows in a row a couple of weeks a go. We drove to Boston in a van, and the fender molded case was more than enough to protect the bass with all the other gear at the back. A flight case would be better for protection for sure, but it would be very heavy, but the mono gig bag would not be protective enough.
 
the "in between" cases as you call them serve a great purpose. a gig back is great if youre traveling on your own, with only one bass. but even in that kind of situation i dont trust a gig bag to protect my bass in a back stage area where who knows what could happen to it. but if youre a band with a gear trailer a hard case is fairly essential. a flight case isnt necessary in a trailer, sure it would be extra safe but a good solid mid level case will usually get the job done. plus a flight case is heavier and bulkier which can be an issue in some venues. but a gig bag isnt going to do anything for you if for some reason the load in the trailer shifts and you end up with gear piled on top of it. would i trust a mid level case to be tossed around by a luggage thrower at an airport, of course not. the type of case you use really depends on your gigging situation.
 
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