Double Bass Help with Neck

[KUNGfuSHERIFF]

You may not have intended to be rude, but that’s the one thing you’ve succeeded at here.

And calling people you asked for help and then verbally abused “insecure” is rich.

Pot, kettle, etc.

Bye.

 

[Greg Clinkingbeard]

Look, that $2k number you threw out includes the losses the luthier incurred in learning what not to do. Good luck to you but you simply don’t know what you don’t know, but I suspect you are about to educate yourself.

 

[Matthew Tucker]

"Only thing I asked for is one measurement. Then I get free advice of "how are you going to attach a fretboard" "how are you gonna manage the rake" etc. No offense but I don't need all this additional input"

No offense but if you know how to figure all the other parameters out, it's rather surprising you'd need to ask for the overstand measurement.

There are a bunch of decent and well-meaning would-be luthiers and self-repairers on this forum who might not have considered the other parameters i mentioned, and appreciated the food for thought.

No offense but i wasn't to know you're not one of them.

 

[Greg Clinkingbeard]

Overstand, projection, straight to center the saddle, f holes, top? Let’s see……. Chalk fit it into a mortise. Does it get glued in with hide glue?…………. There are several things to consider when doing a job like this and changing any one of them changes everything else.
I doubt there are very many people who have made this a career who would just answer the single question without going further to it. We don’t want to see anyone fail and we don’t take any of this lightly. I speak as someone with relatively little experience, only being a decade into it.

 

[Matthew Tucker]

hey Greg, I think we've all missed the point. The original poster is not looking to make a career of it, he or she has purchased a new neck and ALREADY knows everything needed to do the job, (except the length of the bit sticking out, which he or she will have to choose somewhere between 25 and 40 mm)

we weren't asked where or how to trim the root of the neck, or what glue to use and come to think of it nowhere was there any mention that this is actually even a double bass - it's just a bass ... with a fretboard ... so as a double bass luthier I i'm obviously way out of my depth, and actually no longer care

gotta love Talkbass

 

[Don Kasper]

 

[Eli Brockway]

Some of you guys might not want to be so eager to jump down someones throat for asking a simple question. Believe it or not, the internet was invented and with people having access to endless amounts of knowledge that were once not available, people are learning more and able to figure things out that were once "trade secrets".

As eager as you were to jump down Matt's throat for wanting to be sure you knew what you were getting into? As eager as you have been to start insulting multiple people here, and to keep going when others have told you that you probably ought to quit?

You've got enough neurons to rub together to formulate sentences, get yourself offended over someone with actual experience in all this taking a moment to try and be helpful and make sure you knew what you were getting into, and keep pushing forward into something that's likely to give you more trouble than you're able to conceive. Somehow the way you're going on about all this (including posting four times in a row rather than getting all of your thoughts together at once) makes me think you don't have what is required to actually make good use of all that access to knowledge.

Christ, I wish I had the confidence of someone with fewer brain cells than toes.

 

[GretschWretch]

To try to put some positive spin on this thread, at least I now know the correct definitions for "rake" and "overstand."

 

[GretschWretch]

To try to put some positive spin on this thread, at least I now know the correct definitions for "rake" and "overstand."

 

[Don Hergert]

^^THIS^^

I think we all have learned something in this thread.

^^THIS^^

I think we all have learned something in this thread.

 

[Greg Clinkingbeard]

Hey, if you overstand on the rake you might break your nose. But (to mix metaphors or something) when digging a hole near buried power cables, just keep digging. I’ll light a cigar and pour a stiff drink, and enjoy the show.

 

[Don Hergert]

Hmmm, in going on 7 years here now, I've never ignored a user before, it's a feature I was hoping to never need to use... Tools are made to be used I guess.

Hey, it works!

Edit: Caveat, if you ignore the person who started a thread, that thread disappears from your list of threads, too.

[ IGNORE: the ultimate in forum pain relief. ]

 

[Mark_T]

I knew overstand but rake is a new one to me. I assume it’s the angle the fingerboard makes against the top table, but so far google has only offered obviously wrong answers.

 

[Eli Brockway]

[ IGNORE: the ultimate in forum pain relief. ]

You need to remember, sometimes they're actually entertaining to deal with. A little pain behind the eyes isn't much to pay for an easy laugh.

 

[Greg Clinkingbeard]

I knew overstand but rake is a new one to me. I assume it’s the angle the fingerboard makes against the top table, but so far google has only offered obviously wrong answers.

If that’s what it is, the term I know is PROJECTION. Lay a straightedge on the fingerboard and measure the distance of that line to the top, between the notches. Projection and rake angle would be closely related but not the same thing.

 

[Don Hergert]

You need to remember, sometimes they're actually entertaining to deal with. A little pain behind the eyes isn't much to pay for an easy laugh.

True.

For the record, it isn't my current intent to ever ignore anyone again. But who knows, some people are truly outstanding and they deserve the very best.

 

[Eli Brockway]

Quick! Quick! Someone suggest an amateur turning this into a removable neck. Or just screwing it into the neck block and the back, like it's a bolt-on bass guitar.

Then when James finally comes in here he'll have everything to laugh at.

 

[Greg Clinkingbeard]

You guys need to all go join the cry baby guild. Apparently you are all too stupid to know how to read. I asked one question
and I get a bunch of additional junk I already know. l guess you all don’t realize that using hide glue isn’t some well kept secret Lol, keep patting yourselves on the back, you are a dying breed. Once I become the greatest luthier of all time and steal all your business, I will feed your starving children the scraps I pick from my teeth.

No, not stupid at all. Many of us have worked very hard to acquire some knowledge and skills and don’t wish to casually give free advice to the first guy who feels entitled to it, without the slightest indication of appreciation or inclination of ability to use it. Done here.

 

[Greg Clinkingbeard]

Quick! Quick! Someone suggest an amateur turning this into a removable neck. Or just screwing it into the neck block and the back, like it's a bolt-on bass guitar.

Then when James finally comes in here he'll have everything to laugh at.

It will possibly remove itself.

 

[Eli Brockway]

It will possibly remove itself.

Oh, I'm expecting that regardless. I meant one that was meant to do so intentionally.

You know, like that one person was suggesting that called me racist for referring to them as Irish. Must've been about a year ago now. That one was funny too.

 

[Greg Clinkingbeard]

I’m enjoying a Brazilian recording, pressed in Brazil of Sarah Vaughn I snagged at Half Price Books for $3. All of the text is written in Portuguese and I can still understand it about as well as this thread. The music is divine, as Sassy was.