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I need practice not lectures...
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Based solely on this post you strike me as a student that teachers call challenging.
The “lectures” have the “explicit guidance” you said you want and when you skip or ignore that part of the lesson you’re the only one who loses out. No music teacher who’s worthwhile starts and ends with, “Play this.”
Can you play the Bassbuzz exercises without the video running? Have you used the major scale example you cited to learn other major and minor scales? Can you play each scale in more than one octave and in several places along the neck? No student who wants to progress in music will stop at only the things he’s been shown.
Listening is not what you want to do. Nothing in music is more important than listening … to teachers, to songs and to other players.
Your musical progress isn’t being held back by any online lessons but by the way you think about learning music.
I disagree with the OP on SBL. I signed up and haven't regretted it. That said, the most effective lessons are the add-on ones, over and above the regular membership fee. However, these are fantastic. I did the master-the-fretboard one and now am on the technique one. One new lesson a week with specific exercises to practice. PDF workbooks and backing tracks included. Very structured, and very non-lectured. Yes, they cost an extra $150 for the six-month series of lessons, but that is the cost of just two on-line lessons from a name teacher.
Everyone is different, but that's my take. I have been playing bass for 45 years and learned theory as a kid from piano lessons, and these courses are still very useful.
Everyone is different, but that's my take. I have been playing bass for 45 years and learned theory as a kid from piano lessons, and these courses are still very useful.
This is my favourite teacher right here:
The Real Book - Fifth Edition - F - Bass Clef : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Edit: seriously, though the better you get, the less your musical education becomes about playing during the lesson. it's more complex concepts that need a good amount of talking to get you thinking so you can understand, then practice them on your own time working them into tunes. With good knowledge of the basics, though, you can go very far on your own picking things up from places then trying to figure them out. If you're still early on, find yourself a real teacher who can get you to a good level doing "bass player stuff". Then, try and move on to music, which is really the most important thing. Don't be afraid to learn from other instruments - some of my best musical sense has been learned from guitar players and melodic sense from horn players. I like to look for rhythmic sense from percussion lessons, etc... think about music and who naturally does what best in a band then find someone who plays it and teaches it then get that into your head and onto your bass. You'll go miles!
The Real Book - Fifth Edition - F - Bass Clef : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Edit: seriously, though the better you get, the less your musical education becomes about playing during the lesson. it's more complex concepts that need a good amount of talking to get you thinking so you can understand, then practice them on your own time working them into tunes. With good knowledge of the basics, though, you can go very far on your own picking things up from places then trying to figure them out. If you're still early on, find yourself a real teacher who can get you to a good level doing "bass player stuff". Then, try and move on to music, which is really the most important thing. Don't be afraid to learn from other instruments - some of my best musical sense has been learned from guitar players and melodic sense from horn players. I like to look for rhythmic sense from percussion lessons, etc... think about music and who naturally does what best in a band then find someone who plays it and teaches it then get that into your head and onto your bass. You'll go miles!
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I was just thinking, you know who else is a really great teacher is Carol Kaye - lots of great books and materials on her website. You can even sign up for live lessons if you'd like (~$75 a pop but shes an amazing player with great theory knowledge and is a very strong teacher, too).
Good. Why do beginners feel like they're entirely qualified to dictate the curriculum?
Yes you do. Don't ask me how I know.
So often I see people pay Real Money ™ for lessons and they just ... don't carry through on their intent. There's always a reason, nearly always a good reason, but whatever it takes to go forward with challenging material never shows up.
:: shrug ::
You got me, I don't know why. But it sure happens.
:: shrug ::
You got me, I don't know why. But it sure happens.
Take responsibility for your progress. One lesson with a pro to set up practice routine... and that should do it. The rest is up to you. Look for do-able goals for daily work, look for long term goals for your playing career. Get to work. If there was a silver bullet, you'd have found it by now.
I thought I knew the major scale once, too. Then I got a teacher.
Get a teacher if you're serious.
Get a teacher if you're serious.
Nothing compares to immediate, live feedback from a professional.
I feel like the lectures-behind-paywall model is a bubble that will burst in a few years. Once all their content has been consumed, the subscriber base should drop off, compounded by a lot of people not making progress because there are major flaws in how they are applying the concepts they got from these sites.
I feel like the lectures-behind-paywall model is a bubble that will burst in a few years. Once all their content has been consumed, the subscriber base should drop off, compounded by a lot of people not making progress because there are major flaws in how they are applying the concepts they got from these sites.
I dunno man, there'll always be new blood. I think these things have a place. They can definitely get you going, but I believe anyone who wants to really understand the instrument will experience a moment of realisation at some point and seek the help of a professional.
different people have different learning styles--so one method never works for all.
Even if it works for most-there will be those it doesn't work for.
that is one reason why one on one lessons are best.
They are the most easily adaptable for each person.
I have taught, and I did adapt to the learning style of each student--that took getting to know them as students and seeing how they learned best.
there was trial & error
So the OP doesn't like one style or method--that's cool.
Let's be thankful for the variety out there.
if something works for you, there's someone out there it doesn't work for, and vice versa.
Even if it works for most-there will be those it doesn't work for.
that is one reason why one on one lessons are best.
They are the most easily adaptable for each person.
I have taught, and I did adapt to the learning style of each student--that took getting to know them as students and seeing how they learned best.
there was trial & error
So the OP doesn't like one style or method--that's cool.
Let's be thankful for the variety out there.
if something works for you, there's someone out there it doesn't work for, and vice versa.
This is one of the main problems I have with a lot of them, talking too much & not showing or letting me hear what’s going on. I have some speech processing issues and it’s hard for me to follow a lot of the video lessons where they talk and show the note then move on too fast. I always liked Jim Stinnett’s Real Bass lessons cause they go more at my speed, but of course, my private teacher has been the most helpful to me overall.