Name drama...Oh boy

#62
Joe Nerve said:
That says a lot...

Feeling the way you do is understandable, but I agree with what everyone else here said. You'll be much better off figuring out a way to bless them on their way, with the old band name.

In the big picture, 10 years from now (which will come much faster than you think :)), the band name will mean nothing. If you smile and wish them well, you'll be attracting more success your way, also. That's been my experience. Even at times I had to fake wishing people well.
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Wisdom in this post. I just turned 60. Life goes by at breakneck speed. I've never regretted taking the high road / turning the other cheek.

EDIT: That sounds too high minded. In the end, everyone who I perceived as screwing me had nothing good come of it. Take the long view. Petty as it may be, I take some small pleasure in that outcome. We'll just keep that between us here on TB.
 
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thetaxmiser said:
Wisdom in this post. I just turned 60. Life goes by at breakneck speed. I've never regretted taking the high road / turning the other cheek.

EDIT: That sounds too high minded. In the end, everyone who I perceived as screwing me had nothing good come of it. Take the long view. Petty as it may be, I take some small pleasure in that outcome. We'll just keep that between us here on TB.
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The Old Testament Comeuppance Approach. Nice.
 
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If the LS and RG split and/or fired you they will probably to it again to someone else, rinse repeat. I agree with everyone else let it go you're better off without the drama. Especially if the drama follows them and the band name.
 
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KoalaOnBass said:
So, my ex-bandmates and I are currently involved in a heated debate, and I'd like to get some perspective to make sure I'm not the crazy one here. I'm sorry this is so long.

We were an amateur, 5-piece garage band with one single and a modest fb following. In September, after months of tension and arguments about the direction of the band, our rhythm guitarist quit and took the singer with him to start a new band more to their liking. By that point, morale and relationships were so low that the remaining 3 members decided to call it a day as well not long after.

The guitarist and singer who quit now have a new band, they're playing some of our old songs (which is fine, as the ones they took were mostly written by the guitarist), as well as writing new ones. But now, the guitarist has decided he wants the new band to have our old band's name and basically continue as the same band (the singer acts neutral, but she clearly wants it too). He doesn't feel like he should ask anyone's permission either and is unwilling to even meet up to talk about it.

Me and the drummer think this is preposterous, given that the two of them LEFT the original band and should therefore have no right to the name. The other guitarist doesn't care either way. We would be willing to let them have the name if they asked for it as a favor, but the fact they feel entitled to it is infuriating and makes no sense to me.

Another reason this is so irritating is because the reason everything fell apart in the first place was because of the rhythm guitarist trying to force his vision of the band on everyone else incessantly, which caused a lot of bad blood when others wouldn't go along with it. Even though we were explicitly all equal members and a democracy from the start, somewhere along the way the guitarist started thinking of himself as the band leader (without anyone else's consent) and as the only one "trying to make things happen". The whole name thing symbolizes his belief that he, himself, IS the band perfectly, which makes it that much more annoying.

What do you guys think about all of this? I know we can't actually stop him from using the name if he wants it, but I feel like we are right on principle for not wanting him to have it.

TL;DR - guitarist and singer leave band, the band breaks up soon after, now the two of them want to use our old band's name for their new band.
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Big whoop. Do you have another band going by that name? Then who really cares.
 
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KoalaOnBass said:
So, my ex-bandmates and I are currently involved in a heated debate, and I'd like to get some perspective to make sure I'm not the crazy one here. I'm sorry this is so long.

We were an amateur, 5-piece garage band with one single and a modest fb following. In September, after months of tension and arguments about the direction of the band, our rhythm guitarist quit and took the singer with him to start a new band more to their liking. By that point, morale and relationships were so low that the remaining 3 members decided to call it a day as well not long after.

The guitarist and singer who quit now have a new band, they're playing some of our old songs (which is fine, as the ones they took were mostly written by the guitarist), as well as writing new ones. But now, the guitarist has decided he wants the new band to have our old band's name and basically continue as the same band (the singer acts neutral, but she clearly wants it too). He doesn't feel like he should ask anyone's permission either and is unwilling to even meet up to talk about it.

Me and the drummer think this is preposterous, given that the two of them LEFT the original band and should therefore have no right to the name. The other guitarist doesn't care either way. We would be willing to let them have the name if they asked for it as a favor, but the fact they feel entitled to it is infuriating and makes no sense to me.

Another reason this is so irritating is because the reason everything fell apart in the first place was because of the rhythm guitarist trying to force his vision of the band on everyone else incessantly, which caused a lot of bad blood when others wouldn't go along with it. Even though we were explicitly all equal members and a democracy from the start, somewhere along the way the guitarist started thinking of himself as the band leader (without anyone else's consent) and as the only one "trying to make things happen". The whole name thing symbolizes his belief that he, himself, IS the band perfectly, which makes it that much more annoying.

What do you guys think about all of this? I know we can't actually stop him from using the name if he wants it, but I feel like we are right on principle for not wanting him to have it.

TL;DR - guitarist and singer leave band, the band breaks up soon after, now the two of them want to use our old band's name for their new band.
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Take the drummer, the other guitarist, and yourself, go find a singer and move on. You'll be much happier making music than worrying about a name.
 
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KoalaOnBass said:
So, my ex-bandmates and I are currently involved in a heated debate, and I'd like to get some perspective to make sure I'm not the crazy one here. I'm sorry this is so long.

We were an amateur, 5-piece garage band with one single and a modest fb following. In September, after months of tension and arguments about the direction of the band, our rhythm guitarist quit and took the singer with him to start a new band more to their liking. By that point, morale and relationships were so low that the remaining 3 members decided to call it a day as well not long after.

The guitarist and singer who quit now have a new band, they're playing some of our old songs (which is fine, as the ones they took were mostly written by the guitarist), as well as writing new ones. But now, the guitarist has decided he wants the new band to have our old band's name and basically continue as the same band (the singer acts neutral, but she clearly wants it too). He doesn't feel like he should ask anyone's permission either and is unwilling to even meet up to talk about it.

Me and the drummer think this is preposterous, given that the two of them LEFT the original band and should therefore have no right to the name. The other guitarist doesn't care either way. We would be willing to let them have the name if they asked for it as a favor, but the fact they feel entitled to it is infuriating and makes no sense to me.

Another reason this is so irritating is because the reason everything fell apart in the first place was because of the rhythm guitarist trying to force his vision of the band on everyone else incessantly, which caused a lot of bad blood when others wouldn't go along with it. Even though we were explicitly all equal members and a democracy from the start, somewhere along the way the guitarist started thinking of himself as the band leader (without anyone else's consent) and as the only one "trying to make things happen". The whole name thing symbolizes his belief that he, himself, IS the band perfectly, which makes it that much more annoying.

What do you guys think about all of this? I know we can't actually stop him from using the name if he wants it, but I feel like we are right on principle for not wanting him to have it.

TL;DR - guitarist and singer leave band, the band breaks up soon after, now the two of them want to use our old band's name for their new band.
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Who came up with the name? Anything on paper? Any written agreements on who owns the name or has rights to use it or the music? If not there's nothing you can do other than hire a lawyer who upon the receipt of your money will tell you, there's nothing you can do :)
 
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KoalaOnBass said:
So, my ex-bandmates and I are currently involved in a heated debate, and I'd like to get some perspective to make sure I'm not the crazy one here. I'm sorry this is so long.

We were an amateur, 5-piece garage band with one single and a modest fb following. In September, after months of tension and arguments about the direction of the band, our rhythm guitarist quit and took the singer with him to start a new band more to their liking. By that point, morale and relationships were so low that the remaining 3 members decided to call it a day as well not long after.

The guitarist and singer who quit now have a new band, they're playing some of our old songs (which is fine, as the ones they took were mostly written by the guitarist), as well as writing new ones. But now, the guitarist has decided he wants the new band to have our old band's name and basically continue as the same band (the singer acts neutral, but she clearly wants it too). He doesn't feel like he should ask anyone's permission either and is unwilling to even meet up to talk about it.

Me and the drummer think this is preposterous, given that the two of them LEFT the original band and should therefore have no right to the name. The other guitarist doesn't care either way. We would be willing to let them have the name if they asked for it as a favor, but the fact they feel entitled to it is infuriating and makes no sense to me.

Another reason this is so irritating is because the reason everything fell apart in the first place was because of the rhythm guitarist trying to force his vision of the band on everyone else incessantly, which caused a lot of bad blood when others wouldn't go along with it. Even though we were explicitly all equal members and a democracy from the start, somewhere along the way the guitarist started thinking of himself as the band leader (without anyone else's consent) and as the only one "trying to make things happen". The whole name thing symbolizes his belief that he, himself, IS the band perfectly, which makes it that much more annoying.

What do you guys think about all of this? I know we can't actually stop him from using the name if he wants it, but I feel like we are right on principle for not wanting him to have it.

TL;DR - guitarist and singer leave band, the band breaks up soon after, now the two of them want to use our old band's name for their new band.
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Joe Nerve said:
That says a lot...

Feeling the way you do is understandable, but I agree with what everyone else here said. You'll be much better off figuring out a way to bless them on their way, with the old band name.

In the big picture, 10 years from now (which will come much faster than you think :)), the band name will mean nothing. If you smile and wish them well, you'll be attracting more success your way, also. That's been my experience. Even at times I had to fake wishing people well.
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Just call your new band The Nerve :thumbsup:
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The very first band I was in, when I was 19, was the 2nd line-up (singer and drummer had moved Australian cities and kept the name), and we never put out a record. Then there was a 3rd & 4th line-up in Europe and they got signed, put out records. Decades later there was a 5th and 6th line-up (same singer, same band-name).
Now, I get some reflected glory from a few people who have heard of this band and are impressed I was once in it! All because the singer decided to keep using the band name!
 
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