NAMM Duet featuring Michael League

If you want to believe that, cool.
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I took trumpet lessons as a child which consisted of learning how to play major and minor scales. That's it. I could already keep time before that. Because of only a basic musical education any theory beyond that was learned on my own. As such I avoid arguments about when a Bb is an A# and things of that sort.
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I learned music by listening and subconsciously and consciously analyzing things. Later on, on bass, I learned what to call the stuff I had already learned. I learned how to play in odd time signatures by listening, analyzing and trying to make them feel natural. I learned alot by experimenting. I did all of that without reading bass clef. I sat here tonight watching a recorded TV sitcom, picking out the incidental soundtrack music by playing the intervals. No instructor involved, no gig on the learning. Learning because I want to. That is a stumbling block for many musicians.

If you really think my time with brass instruments was a big leg up on where I've ended up, as the brother of two sisters who had similar music education and did nothing else with it, I'd had to seriously disagree. The biggest factors in any success I've had were I wanted to be a better musician than the day before and I stuck with it.
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We clearly aren't going to agree on this, there are things you want to assume about me and about what's necessary to advance as a musician. I just disagree.
Some people may be more drawn to music than others, some may have a harder time figuring things out, I don't know. I just used the resources I've had to keep pushing on. I'm a better bassist this year than I was last year. I hope that continues... I know I'm still scratching the surface.
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Brad, I don't assume anything about you because I only know you through TB and a little on Facebook. We had one short phone conversation too. Any assumption I make is based on what you have posted. There is a good chance that we both have misinterpreted what each of us has said about ourselves.
 
Brad, I don't assume anything about you because I only know you through TB and a little on Facebook. We had one short phone conversation too. Any assumption I make is based on what you have posted. There is a good chance that we both have misinterpreted what each of us has said about ourselves.

Seriously?:)

"You were a trumpet player. I assume you were in band and had learned reading music and some theory".

I responded because of your assumption.
 
Seriously?:)

"You were a trumpet player. I assume you were in band and had learned reading music and some theory".

I responded because of your assumption.

When we talked earlier, you talked about admiring bebop Miles because you had played trumpet. To me, that sounded like someone who had achieved some facility in trumpet, not a kid who just knew scales. As I said, I don't know you beyond what You write.
 
A big part of the discussions I was in IRL yesterday were people rationalizing why they weren't where they claimed they wanted to be music-wise. None of them really held water after light scrutiny.

I should lose weight. I can give all sorts of rationales for why I haven't. But I know that if I really committed I could do it. The rest is excuses. Nobody wants to think they're making excuses. I am not directing this at anyone in particular other than myself.

I wouldn't mind being a better sight-reader but have found that it is largely unnecessary for what I do. Instead of trying to memorize new music I use my own number system and a music slow downer program if need be. Cut my learning time down tremendously. I'm not a better sight-reader because I haven't made it a priority. No other excuse.
 
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A big part of the discussions I was in IRL yesterday were people rationalizing why they weren't where they claimed they wanted to be music-wise. None of them really held water after light scrutiny.

I should lose weight. I can give all sorts of rationales for why I haven't. But I know that if I really committed I could do it. The rest is excuses. Nobody wants to think they're making excuses. I am not directing this at anyone in particular other than myself.

I wouldn't mind being a better sight-reader but have found that it is largely unnecessary for what I do. Instead of trying to memorize new music I use my own number system and a music slow downer program if need be. Cut my learning time down tremendously. I'm not a better sight-reader because I haven't made it a priority. No other excuse.

I have no argument about your point. I have never blamed anyone else for not being better on bass, or allowing my ability to speak Arabic erode, for that matter, although given that I did research in a country under the travel ban, I probably wouldn't be visiting any way right now!:cool:

Mods, I promise that is as political as I will get!
 
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When we talked earlier, you talked about admiring bebop Miles because you had played trumpet. To me, that sounded like someone who had achieved some facility in trumpet, not a kid who just knew scales. As I said, I don't know you beyond what You write.

As I wrote earlier, I wasn't taught how to figure out bebop lines from my elementary school lessons. I didn't buy charts... I did it by ear. I was still playing trumpet when the Brecker Brothers "Some Skunk Funk" came out. That was close to the end of my trumpeting, overlapping my instrument switch. Bass drew me in because it made more sense. If I relied on what I was taught my developement would've likely stopped at playing John Phillip Sousa marches.
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I wasn't talking about admiring Miles (at least I don't think I was), I found it odd that someone thought a guy who was a contemporary of Bird wasn't a legend at the time. He's at or near the top of the list from what I remember.
 
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that's a song what he's playing, I'm trying to remember what it is. great soloing skills by league, love his stuff with snarky puppy.

Jan Jan, by Grant Green. It's always been a great break tune, along with Windjammer. This is an early version, without the chromatic runs.

 
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