Next Steps in my Bass Journey?

Hey welcome!

For sure do some live lessons and learn from some theory books.
I like Rocksmith and used it for fun but it really IMO can hinder true progress. Many people who I talked to about using Rocksmith to learn seem to take years to learn things that shouldn't take that long for someone learning from a method book or lessons.

Lessons will bring you far and your teacher make it clear to understand timing, counting and how to handle playing in a band. To be best of your ability if you can try to find someone who actually teaches bass, a lot of upright players will double, and guitarist will double too, but make sure it isn't someone who "Picked up bass cause it is easy!" find a teacher who teaches some real theory, my first teacher legitimately minor in bass and knew theory and played in loads of context even though he was a guitarist first and taught theory well.

There are some Ska bass lessons, it can go down to fundamentals. I would learn some theory first again so you understand what scale numbers means because lot of the Ska tutorial gonna do that, and Ska is IMO has many ways to play bass and once you get into learn some sheet music or use your ear for your favorites!

All my opinion, best of luck and have a great day and hope your bass journey is awesome.
 
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You really don’t have much to lose replying to Craigslist ads. If you do make a connection to meet up and it doesn’t work out, you did lose some time. But if it does work out, you’ve got some new people to play with.

I’ve had some of my favorite connections through CL.
 
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Hey welcome!

For sure do some live lessons and learn from some theory books.
I like Rocksmith and used it for fun but it really IMO can hinder true progress. Many people who I talked to about using Rocksmith to learn seem to take years to learn things that shouldn't take that long for someone learning from a method book or lessons.

Lessons will bring you far and your teacher make it clear to understand timing, counting and how to handle playing in a band. To be best of your ability if you can try to find someone who actually teaches bass, a lot of upright players will double, and guitarist will double too, but make sure it isn't someone who "Picked up bass cause it is easy!" find a teacher who teaches some real theory, my first teacher legitimately minor in bass and knew theory and played in loads of context even though he was a guitarist first and taught theory well.

There are some Ska bass lessons, it can go down to fundamentals. I would learn some theory first again so you understand what scale numbers means because lot of the Ska tutorial gonna do that, and Ska is IMO has many ways to play bass and once you get into learn some sheet music or use your ear for your favorites!

All my opinion, best of luck and have a great day and hope your bass journey is awesome.

I saw the Frieren avatar and wondered, "who is this cool person?"

Then I read in your signature that you're a Fisherman...and I love fishing. So I click on your profile and see that you have a metallic orange Mikro - so do I! But then I realized that you love coffee and I hate it, and the world came to a better balance because there is not an unauthorized clone of me in the wild.
 
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Your #2 has a simple solution, a USB-C to AUX adapter. I have several "JSAUX USB Type C to 3.5mm Female Headphone Jack Adapter" and they work fine. Seven bucks from Amazon, cheap enough to keep one with an aux cable in each base case, plus another for my headphones when I travel.

I'm very much an introvert too. I was in a band during college with some close friends from high school. I was probably the weak link but had fun and learned a lot. However, I moved across the country to further my education and was never really able to link up with anyone with similar taste and close enough skill level. I did play in a small church group for a year or so, but then we moved to a new city...career, kids, etc... and didn't play at all for almost 25 years. For pandemic coping, I started playing again, first with free youtube videos (we didn't have those when I started in 1979) and then with lessons starting in 2021. My skills have improved exponentially since then. I attended a "porchfest" in 2022 and vowed that I would play at the next one. Started chatting with folks at a weekly happy hour with work colleagues (took me only 20 years to start attending those...) and founds lots of musicians. We had a blast playing at last year's porchfest and even played a gig at work. The lesson is you can accomplish a lot if you push yourself just a bit outside your comfort zone.

Best of luck to you!
 
I saw the Frieren avatar and wondered, "who is this cool person?"

Then I read in your signature that you're a Fisherman...and I love fishing. So I click on your profile and see that you have a metallic orange Mikro - so do I! But then I realized that you love coffee and I hate it, and the world came to a better balance because there is not an unauthorized clone of me in the wild.

HAHA :laugh:

If you it makes you feel better I enjoy tea way more these days with my jaw and ear problems caffeine can be way too strong lol.

Maybe I'm a slight variation clone?
 
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Aside from Craigslist, virtually every region in the US probably has a local music scene Facebook group or three.

I get that you are introverted, but "introverted" doesn't necessarily mean "antisocial". You just have to put yourself out there, if you want to meet people and make friends, it's really that simple.
 
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#1 - Education
Currently, the vast majority of my playing (bass and guitar) is via Rocksmith, essentially Guitar Hero with real instruments for those who don't know. And it's fun, but apart from some technique stuff, it doesn't teach much more than how to follow colored dots on a screen. It will get you started on learning some songs, but I don't have very good retention once I'm away from the game.

I've tried teaching myself from a book, but I'd really like to get some online or in-person lessons. I will do my own searching for threads and reviews, but I would welcome any thoughts on progress-based online lessons like the SBL Player's Path or BassBuzz Beginner to Badass. And I would especially appreciate any recommendations for teachers in the Lehigh Valley. (Links to good ska threads would be appreciated, too as that's a genre I'm particularly interested in digging into.)

Much in common! :) I started playing guitars ~30 years ago, very seriously for 5-6 years then on and off many times, and then started on bass 2 years ago pretty much on Rocksmith 2014. I found it to be an excellent tool for many things that traditional studies don't give you: immediate jump into the fire of playing real music on the instrument, quick way of assessing if a particular song is within your comfort zone or not, exposure to hundreds of different rhythms and grooves, discovery of ghost notes and hard-to-transcribe bass parts, encouragement to learn songs start-to-finish... It's not, and cannot be, a solution for everything you need to learn an instrument, but it is one very useful tool.

Retention/memorization is one thing that Rocksmith is not very good at. After a few plays, it starts hiding some of the parts to try and force you to remember them instead of reading them, but it cannot know which parts you are struggling to remember, so it ends up hiding them effectively at random. I do my memorizations in a different way, although I also don't personally think remembering songs by memory is important until you need to perform them, but other people disagree.

With 20+ years of experience, you might have under your belt enough wisdom to teach yourself, especially if you have already spent some years under a teacher, even on a different instrument, but maybe that's not your case. The fact that you say yourself you want to study with a teacher is a sign that this is what you probably need most at the moment and what is going to give you the greatest benefits, so go for it! I have no idea who could be your first teacher where you live, but in very broad terms I would seek a teacher who:

- is actually renowned/appreciated for teaching rather than playing
- has flexible ideas about how to teach, and what to teach, depending on the student
- is good at listening (in both senses: music and people)

Red flags to watch for in my opinion are teachers who brag about their own achievements, and those who talk too much about money (e.g. have many payment schemes or talk about how much money you can save if you choose them before you even start).

Some of these things may not be easy to know before you start studying with them, but you can always try and change the teacher later. For this reason, I do no recommend to commit into a long-term teaching plan until you are sure you found a good teacher.

#2 - Playing at Home
I live in a second-floor apartment. Playing out loud through an amp at home is something I just don't want to attempt right now. Rocksmith uses a USB cable to the computer, and when I'm not playing the game, I have a Vox amPlug headphone amp. And it's fine, it's just annoying moving things around and figuring out the signal chain if you want to play with any effects. It does have an aux jack, but most phones don't have headphone jacks anymore.

I will do my own searches for ways to play quietly at home and still have things like Spotify or online lessons in the same ears, but links to threads or options would be appreciated.

One good news is that there are more and more musicians going towards in-ear-monitoring (I am one of them, and until a few months ago I thought I never would) and amp-less gigging, so practicing at home with good headphones that make you hear well all your mistakes and noises is not bad.

#3 - Playing with Other People
I'm pretty introverted. I don't get too involved socially at work. And I'm not confident enough in my abilities to answer Craigslist ads for bassists or to show up at a jam at a bar. I'm not even looking to gig. Anything starting out would be really low stakes, just playing for the fun of it.

So I guess I'm asking where you all go to make musician friends and connections that can turn into opportunities to play. What are some of your third spaces where you've found like-minded people to play with? Do you have any advice for an introverted bassist to put themselves out there? I don't know, I feel like there should be more questions here, but the reason for posting here is to hopefully start a discussion. Maybe, if it makes more sense, I'll create a separate thread entirely for advice for introverts.

This is the most difficult question, as it is the most personal and situational...

I am not introverted but when it comes to music I have always been strongly influenced by the presence of other people to play with. Whenever I had a bunch of friends who wanted to make music, my interest into committing to studying and improving has always skyrocketed, and every time our band quitted, it plummeted and I tended to go cold turkey without playing for years. Currently, I have found many people in my working place who played an instrument and wanted to play together, and we were blessed by the opportunity given by our employer to setup a rehearsal room in our office basement. But it all started by chatting with workmates about who was into making music. I have learned that there is generally a very large amount of people who are dabbling in some instrument or want to sing seriously, if I just bring up the conversation anywhere in any social context I might find myself into, I always find someone and most of them are not already busy with a band but waiting for the opportunity to find others. So the only thing I can suggest, is to try and bring up the topic of playing instruments in whatever social group you attend regularly... workplace, school, gym/sport group... if you already know the people even just casually, it might be easier for an introvert than just answering an ad or trying to find people online. Also, once you go to lessons, you can be sure your teacher will know someone who's looking for a bass player!
 
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