Played my first gig, but wondering..

#21
Lance Bunyon said:
I don't have many good things to say about Bugera/Behringer. I've saved 3 bassists who's Behringer rig failed so far.
Use your Fender.
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He didn't say Behringer. He said Bugera. You turned it into Behringer, as did several others. It's not, it's a completely different brand.

If you're going to automatically lump all the brands from the parent company together, why didn't you include TC also?

You also did not identify what amp it was. The newer Veyron is a fantastic sounding, reliable amp and used by several accomplished bassists on this board.

@samniner There are a lot aristocrats on this board when it comes to amps. Nothing wrong with Bugera and if it sounds good to you, it is.
 
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#22
Ok, so you're kinda new, don't yet need more power, had a not-good tone experience with a manufacturer known to be unreliable, and are just curious to try different flavored amps?

I love Ampegs, but I think that coming from a Rumble you're likely be disappointed, but you may love it. Life's short, try one or two or seven out with the band at full volume.

I think you'd do really well to hook up with @richntiff some time to try that GK. Love is quite probable right there.
 
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Derail for fun

@FingerDub Music Group, chaired by Uli Behringer, owns Midas, Klark Teknik, Eurotec, Turbosound, Behringer, annnnnd... Bugera. Saying that they're different companies is like insisting that a GMC Sierra is completely unrelated to a Camaro- they're not.
 
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MattZilla said:
Derail for fun

@FingerDub Music Group, chaired by Uli Behringer, owns Midas, Klark Teknik, Eurotec, Turbosound, Behringer, annnnnd... Bugera. Saying that they're different companies is like insisting that a GMC Sierra is completely unrelated to a Camaro- they're not.
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Go back and read. I never said different companies. I said different brands.

Hyundai makes Kia but the 2 are completely different brands. They are made to different specs with different parts and manufacturing processes. The 2 are not even close to the same. See what I did there?
 
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Gallien Krueger makes some great combos. The nice thing with GK is that you can attach a powered extension cab which will definitely boost your sound. I found that the 200 watt MB115 works well for small to medium venues. I even played outdoors with it and never turned the volume above 1/2. It weighs about 35 lbs and is fairly compact and easy to lug around. You can also get a 500 watt MB212 which will most definitely fill the bill. Good luck. :D
 
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I am confused about one thing - why mic the rumble? seems like unnecessary work to me - my (limited) understanding is that the DI out on those is essentially designed to mimic mic'ing the cab (post eveverything and filtered) so why the mic and the DI?
 
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richntiff said:
Where in Wisconsin are you? My live rig is a GK MB112+ MBP 112 extension cab. Total is 500 watts into 2 12” speakers. Loud. As. Heck. If I need it. I have full PA support on every gig. If you are close by and would like to try out the GK rig, I’m happy to help out. FWIW - Behringer is not known for quality unless you are talking about the XR mixers. The Fender Rumbles seem to be a very personal choice. In my opinion, they are cheap and thin feeling. However, many have gigged them with good results. In the end, it’s what YOU want. My best advice? Don’t buy something that is ‘just enough’. You WILL find yourself in a situation where you want / need more. Try to stay ahead of that if at all possible. To me, the minimum size gig rig is 500 watts into 2-12” speakers. You want headroom.
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I live in Whitewater but the band is based out of Beloit, just south Janesville. I did pick up that Ampeg and I’m surprised by the sound. What a difference. Like you said that Fender does have that cheap feel and sound to it now that I’ve compared them. I wouldn’t have realized it if I hadn’t compared them side by side.
So with your band and full PA support at your disposal, do you feel that you could get by with out going bigger?
 
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BlitzCraig said:
I am confused about one thing - why mic the rumble? seems like unnecessary work to me - my (limited) understanding is that the DI out on those is essentially designed to mimic mic'ing the cab (post eveverything and filtered) so why the mic and the DI?
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Ahhh... I wasn’t aware of that. A few videos on the YouTubes compared the two and noticed a difference in sound. But, that could have been just my ears wanting to hear something else.
 
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buldog5151bass said:
Bugera/Behringer has a very checkered reputation. I will leave it at that.
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... largely fuelled and perpetuated by people without direct personal experience. I will leave it at that. ;)

Hey, I'm not going to pretend they're the best quality, because there are better... But my first gigging amp was a 300W head that actually sounded pretty good and never missed a beat when I sold it on (and I bought it used). I have a 45W little practice amp that has been in action since 2007 and has been taken everywhere... still in great condition. I'm also one of those guys who look after their equipment so that might help ;) I have seen many Behringer amplifiers in local session/small bars as part of their equipment that everybody uses, and I have no complaints...

Bugera is one notch higher in quality than Behringer, even if it belongs to the same company... I keep hearing positive reports from owners too.

Only amps to have actually let me down? Ampeg (twice) and TC Electronic (once).

Bottom line: if you like the sound of the Bugera or Behringer, and you're looking into that budget segment... do it. There are warranties for a reason, and chances are you'll never need to use it. While it's not the best quality equipment ever, it's nowhere as bad as people on this forum want you to believe (they all have stories of someone else who saw or did something, of course ;) )

Personally, I prefer other amplifiers... but whenever I have to use what's provided, and I see one of the Behringer combos, or a Laney Richter Kickback, or a Fender Rumble... if it's not been abused I'm happy enough, because I know they'll do the job. Because that's another thing, a lot of them are severely abused... maybe because being cheap means they're bought mainly by people who don't know much and they think 100W is enough, and when it isn't they boost lows all the way and turn volume and gain up... an then they fail and it's because Behringer is bad... :D
 
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JimmyM said:
B100R is my favorite SS combo amp of all time. Sounds a lot like a solid state B-15. Wish I had one but they've been long discontinued. Will you like it better than your current amp? Don't know. Only you can answer that, and only one way to find out...
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I have a B100R, and have used it for 90% or more of my gigs over the last 10 or more years, mostly without FOH support. Great tone, more volume than you'd expect from 100 watts. I will never sell it! (Sorry, Jimmy...)
 
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The Rumbles are cool...
GKs are cool...
Hartkes are cool...
Peaveys are cool...
The oooold Ampeg fliptops sounded great, new, not even close.

I have a Peavey MiniMax 500 head... Great head. Fan is loud but I couldn't care less.. Can't hear it when I play.
The MiniMax is a really good sounding head and cheap. I like Peavey stuff... Damn good despite what some say...
(I also have an old FB135, a GK1001 stack, etc., so I don't HAVE to play the Peavey, I choose to.)... I snagged mine on sale NIB for a bit over $200... Can't beat that with a stick for a 500W amp...

I had a TCBG250-112. Head, that never been under any heavy load, never loud (self practice amp), blew on me when I was NOT playing, been sitting idle for several minutes....POP. Out of several buds with TC bass amps, until then I was the ONLY one that DIDN'T have issues... I jerked the amp and it wasn't the common varistor blow, so I tossed it... Jacked the cab and use it with the MiniMax for practicing. Head and shoulders difference over the TC head....as in no comparison....

Plan on a NEO mag'd hi-pwr 2x10 or 4x10 cab soon...

I will never buy another TC amp product.

Play what you LIKE. Doesn't matter what ---> I <--- or anybody else thinks... Satisfy YOURSELF....
 
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Behringer is a lot better now than the early stuff... light years better...
The stigma of their early smokers still hangs around though...

I like how their dig boards sound... very nice...

I have two rack modules in my PA rack, dig EQ and dig effects, they work great and have 100% reliable. Bought em several years back on sale dirt cheap. Love both. Both great.

A bud of mine, several years back, summed up the early Behr power amps... "if it didn't explode when you first turned it on, you got one of the good ones"... ;)

Lotta folks using their newer power amps and such...

I can't speak to Bugera bass amps but the couple of Bugera guitar amps I've heard were nice...

That big electronics company in Behr City in China makes a lots mo stuff than what say Behr, Bug, etc. on the boards... Some might be surprised who actually built the board in 'their' amp/stomp/rack module...
 
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samniner said:
I live in Whitewater but the band is based out of Beloit, just south Janesville. I did pick up that Ampeg and I’m surprised by the sound. What a difference. Like you said that Fender does have that cheap feel and sound to it now that I’ve compared them. I wouldn’t have realized it if I hadn’t compared them side by side.
So with your band and full PA support at your disposal, do you feel that you could get by with out going bigger?
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I'm very happy with the 2-12" with 500 watts of power. I think that - for most typical band situations - it's definitely enough juice. The exception would be a really loud metal band with people who don't understand how to turn it down lol!
 
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Maybe I’ll bring both along lol. Clean and dirty???

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