Question About Low Volume/Home Setup

This is actually a very good question and the answer is "it depends".

Different amps and cabinets are designed with different voicings, intentionally, to appeal to different players and different situations. Amps that are designed as "practice amps" are generally also designed to be small and inexpensive, with less attention to detail and the voicing may very well be a compromise.

My experience (based on designing amps/cabinets) is that in general you get what you pay for, and if you want better performance it's going to cost more but it may not be necessary to go to the high powered amps with large cabinets. There's an entire category of intermediately sized and "reasonably" priced amps/cabinets out there that are suitable for small and mid sized gigs yet are also an excellent choice for practicing while retaining the voicing choices and adjustability that will be helpful in adapting to your practice space.

For example, the Genzler Magellan 350, Mesa Subway 350, Aguilar ToneHammer 350, Ampeg PF-350 would all fit into this category, each will have their own strengths and weaknesses and their own native voicing, but they will all work for both smaller gigs and also practice.

At low volumes, you may find the need to add a little low eq to your tone to account for the ear's lower sensitivity to low frequencies at low (practice) volumes, but all of these amps are suitable. The same arguments apply to a variety of speakers in this category as well.
Thank you sir! I was hoping that you would chime in here! This makes sense...
 
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Small guitar tube amps are also an option. For low volume at home I find these more rewarding than bass solid-state amps. They often have an integrated reverb which is nice when practicing in a dry-sounding room. And they are very cheap.

For me the sweet spot are amps with a 2x6v6 power section, with a power rating of 10 to 20 watts and with a flexible eq section.

For home use and low volume acoustic gigs I currently use a Bogner Duende head, an Egnater Tweaker 15 head and a Laney Cub 10 combo. Of the 3 I prefer the egnater because it has a very nice eq section.

Other options with 2x6v6 are fender superchamp x2, ampeg gvt15, princetons, deluxe reverb and many others.

I use them with bass cabs (Mesa Subway 12 and/or 15) but also with guitar cabs. Some guitar speakers sound great for bass at low volume.

I also have a 200w bass tube head and high wattage SS heads for stage use but at home the low power amps sound much better, at least in my opinion.
 
Small guitar tube amps are also an option. For low volume at home I find these more rewarding than bass solid-state amps. They often have an integrated reverb which is nice when practicing in a dry-sounding room. And they are very cheap.

For me the sweet spot are amps with a 2x6v6 power section, with a power rating of 10 to 20 watts and with a flexible eq section.

For home use and low volume acoustic gigs I currently use a Bogner Duende head, an Egnater Tweaker 15 head and a Laney Cub 10 combo. Of the 3 I prefer the egnater because it has a very nice eq section.

Other options with 2x6v6 are fender superchamp x2, ampeg gvt15, princetons, deluxe reverb and many others.

I use them with bass cabs (Mesa Subway 12 and/or 15) but also with guitar cabs. Some guitar speakers sound great for bass at low volume.

I also have a 200w bass tube head and high wattage SS heads for stage use but at home the low power amps sound much better, at least in my opinion.
That is a very cool idea!
 
We spend a lot of time looking after my wife’s 98 year old mother , so I set up a little practice nook there. I’m not loud there. At first I picked up a Rumble 15 thinking small and cheap would work , but the tone sucked. I had been using a GK MB150 at home. It’s been about three years now and the rig has evolved. The early version that “worked” for me was a GK MB200 and an Ampeg 210AV. Today I’m using a Darkglass Exponent , the e500 and a Phil Jones C2 cab. The e500 runs software that has two dozen pedals and effects , you program with a phone or tablet. It’s intuitive and easy to create presets. Sometimes I might plug into a Yamaha NE-1 parametric eq to fatten things up. I also use a Phil Jones BigHead headphone amp for silent practice. I can plug in a tablet and run over things on YouTube.
My home practice rig changed too , it’s an Aguilar TH350 into a SL112.
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An early version.
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Not suitable for gigs or band rehearsal , but a seriously enjoyable little rig to spend time with.
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We spend a lot of time looking after my wife’s 98 year old mother , so I set up a little practice nook there. I’m not loud there. At first I picked up a Rumble 15 thinking small and cheap would work , but the tone sucked. I had been using a GK MB150 at home. It’s been about three years now and the rig has evolved. The early version that “worked” for me was a GK MB200 and an Ampeg 210AV. Today I’m using a Darkglass Exponent , the e500 and a Phil Jones C2 cab. The e500 runs software that has two dozen pedals and effects , you program with a phone or tablet. It’s intuitive and easy to create presets. Sometimes I might plug into a Yamaha NE-1 parametric eq to fatten things up. I also use a Phil Jones BigHead headphone amp for silent practice. I can plug in a tablet and run over things on YouTube.
My home practice rig changed too , it’s an Aguilar TH350 into a SL112. View attachment 5281683
An early version.
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Not suitable for gigs or band rehearsal , but a seriously enjoyable little rig to spend time with.
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Very cool setup!
 
I have a TC Electronics RH 450 mated with their RS210 cabinet which I really like as a home setup (I live on a sailboat for the most part), mainly because, at 46 pounds, I'm not inclined to lug the cab around.

Here you can see it on the port settee back and to the left.

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Been considering the much lighter (22 lb) lFender Rumble 100 1 x 12 for a secondary residence on land-
Please tell me you’re in a yacht rock band!
 
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We spend a lot of time looking after my wife’s 98 year old mother , so I set up a little practice nook there. I’m not loud there. At first I picked up a Rumble 15 thinking small and cheap would work , but the tone sucked. I had been using a GK MB150 at home. It’s been about three years now and the rig has evolved. The early version that “worked” for me was a GK MB200 and an Ampeg 210AV. Today I’m using a Darkglass Exponent , the e500 and a Phil Jones C2 cab. The e500 runs software that has two dozen pedals and effects , you program with a phone or tablet. It’s intuitive and easy to create presets. Sometimes I might plug into a Yamaha NE-1 parametric eq to fatten things up. I also use a Phil Jones BigHead headphone amp for silent practice. I can plug in a tablet and run over things on YouTube.
My home practice rig changed too , it’s an Aguilar TH350 into a SL112. View attachment 5281683
An early version.
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Not suitable for gigs or band rehearsal , but a seriously enjoyable little rig to spend time with.
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Yes I purchased the Phil Jones Double Four a week ago to use at my parents' place where I visit and stay for similar reasons-

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As small as it is, my mom told me she could hear it downstairs in their bedroom which is directly beneath my upstairs bedroom and music station, hence the AKG 720 headphones. Nevertheless, since on occasions I may be there for contiguous stretches as long as six weeks, I have considered a more substantial alternative to play out in the barn or whenever they're not sleeping.

Beautiful bass by the way- what make is it?
 
Yes I purchased the Phil Jones Double Four a week ago to use at my parents' place where I visit and stay for similar reasons-

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As small as it is, my mom told me she could hear it downstairs in their bedroom which is directly beneath my upstairs bedroom and music station, hence the AKG 720 headphones. Nevertheless, since on occasions I may be there for contiguous stretches as long as six weeks, I have considered a more substantial alternative to play out in the barn or whenever they're not sleeping.

Beautiful bass by the way- what make is it?
Almost bought one of those myself recently. Great looking stuff! How do you like the bass response?
 
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View attachment 5282213 It’s been evolving , and the cab is not enough for band rehearsals or gigs, but it’s a really nice little rig for quiet practice.
When I take an amp for rehearsal I usually bring this little rig. It’s tiny , but will get fairly loud. For gigs I replace the Barefaced One 10 cab with a Bergantino cab. And keep the Forte amp with the Monique preamp.View attachment 5282213

Looks Steampunk cool- I bet it sounds great -
 
Almost bought one of those myself recently. Great looking stuff! How do you like the bass response?

The bass response is great- particularly with my Steinberger XL-25 which has massive output- mind you this is with the EQ settings to mid-

I will say this this- it isn't very loud, but the quality of tone is very good. It's like taking the output of a decent standard sized rig and proportionately shrinking it down without losing quality of tone.

It can be powered by a 20 volt battery pack and appropriate DC cable, and played outdoors if you want-

Here are a couple of videos that enticed me to making the purchase-



 
Yes I purchased the Phil Jones Double Four a week ago to use at my parents' place where I visit and stay for similar reasons-

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As small as it is, my mom told me she could hear it downstairs in their bedroom which is directly beneath my upstairs bedroom and music station, hence the AKG 720 headphones. Nevertheless, since on occasions I may be there for contiguous stretches as long as six weeks, I have considered a more substantial alternative to play out in the barn or whenever they're not sleeping.

Beautiful bass by the way- what make is it?

Being a caregiver with parents can be difficult , it’s not something we had planned. And it’s been about three years now. So I wish you well. Patience and understanding.
The bass was given to me after an old friend passed , it’s an Epiphone Rumblekat , the Allen Woody. I’ve gone over to short scale basses for the most part.
 
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I recently upgraded from a Rumble 100. I love the sound of tubes, also wanted something future proof and light enough to one hand it. I ended up getting a GK Fusion 210 combo. 400 watts as is, 800 with an extension cabinet. All tube preamp, very intuitive settings, DI out, etc.
I haven’t gotten to where I’m doing gigs yet, but started going to a jazz jam session in a practice space. They had me plug into a mediocre PA and I could barely hear my low notes. I’m bringing my GK this week.
The amp is very sensitive to small changes in the volume knob, but I run it through pedals that I can adjust more easily. The radial pedal allows me to keep my passive Jaco fretless and my active Stingray balanced so I don’t have to mess with compression and pedal settings when I switch.
 
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I’m surprised the Fender Rumble 40 is t cutting it for home practice.

Are you playing at high volume at home?

I’ve had a lot of the same amps mentioned here and while some have come and gone, the ones I use the most at home are a GK MB150s, a Fender Bassman 25, and a Roland Microcube bass.
The Roland has the worst sound and the best feature set.
The GK has the best sound but lacks an aux in.

For home practice, I was happy with an Swr Wm10, Ampeg B100r, and a Fender Bxr25 as well.
 
I’m surprised the Fender Rumble 40 is t cutting it for home practice.

Are you playing at high volume at home?

I’ve had a lot of the same amps mentioned here and while some have come and gone, the ones I use the most at home are a GK MB150s, a Fender Bassman 25, and a Roland Microcube bass.
The Roland has the worst sound and the best feature set.
The GK has the best sound but lacks an aux in.

For home practice, I was happy with an Swr Wm10, Ampeg B100r, and a Fender Bxr25 as well.

For real. I still have my original SWR Workingman's 12 from 1999 that I use as a practice amp sometimes. I even -gasp- still gig with it for very low volume gigs, just to get it out of the house and stretch its legs. MORE than enough for home practice for sure.
 
For real. I still have my original SWR Workingman's 12 from 1999 that I use as a practice amp sometimes. I even -gasp- still gig with it for very low volume gigs, just to get it out of the house and stretch its legs. MORE than enough for home practice for sure.
I used to have a WM12, S/N 36, that I bought in the ear;y/mis '90s. At one point, I gave the speaker cabinet to a friend to use with his GK MB150s head, and I made a nice headcase for the chassis out of oak. I should have kept that but I ended up selling it on the 'bay when I got my second Walter Woods MI100-8.
 
Depends on the home. Since it is winter now, can't go to the shed. Open back headphones or a small EA 1X10 which is pretty hi-fi using an AI Clarus set flat but HPF set to 40 Hz. I am using a NUX pre to load my Mesa Diesel 1X15 + 210 IR. My Headphones are calibrated to Harmon Open Back 2019 Curve. After 9 - I only use headphones

I realize this is an old thread, but Im curious about your choice of open backed headphones. I tried a few before setting on the ubiquitous (closed back) Sony MDR7506. I found the lack of room noise attenuation incredibly distracting.
 
I'm currently using an Aguilar TH500 and a Barefaced One10 for home practice. Using a 500 watt amp doesn't mean you have to run at 500 watts!! IMO the sound of good gear running at low volume beats "practice" amps running at the same volume hands down.
 
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