Double Bass Recommend Strings for a Bluegrass Noob

Steel core strings (in general) are harder to press down than gut (core) or synthetic (core) strings, due to the higher force you need to press them down.
Most of the synthetic core strings are extremely stretchable and can reach a dynamic limit, so that even if you put more excursion into your plucking it won’t get louder.

To begin with bowing I would not recommend strings with a synthetic surface but with an outer metal (non-aluminium) winding.

Steel core strings have a smaller diameter, specially on the higher, thinner strings than gut or synthetic core strings. That together with the higher force to press down (and maybe a high string action) can make playing a bit hard.
If you want to go the Spirocore route anyway, get 4/4 Weich or Solo strings that are even softer than Weich if tuned to the normal orchestra tuning. These 4/4 string names start with an S, the 3/4 versions are higher tension on the same vibrating string length.

As a lower tension less stretchy synthetic core (similar stretch to plain gut G) I would recommend Innovation Polychromes.
A bit higher tension but with a softer sound are the Innovation Braided. Both available from GHS now. Both bow very well but work equally well for pizz.

Anyway, a trip to a luthier with some time to inspect, talk and watch would be a good idea anyway. He can check the instrument and make it easier to play for you. It won’t cost you an arm and a leg. And you might try other basses with different strings to get a feel how they may behave on your instrument (but every bass is different). If you try that yourself you can easily ruin something and then it can get expensive. Look and learn, then you might be able to do it yourself next time.

BTW, the DB is not an instrument that you can play in a 2 hour gig after 6 months. It might work if you switch from BG to DB and back every few pieces, but with an emphasis on BG, not DB.
 
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If you try that yourself you can easily ruin something and then it can get expensive. Look and learn, then you might be able to do it yourself next time.

BTW, the DB is not an instrument that you can play in a 2 hour gig after 6 months. It might work if you switch from BG to DB and back every few pieces, but with an emphasis on BG, not DB.

Good advice for sure! Being so new to the DB, I really had no idea what to expect. Thanks!
 
I've been playing bluegrass for about 10 years using Bel Canto strings. I get many positive comments on the quality of the sound. These are generally considered orchestral strings. My suggestions:

1) Right now before you do anything else get a bow, an instructor, and start working through one of the standard methods. There's no faster way to achieve good left hand technique and intonation.
2) Your nut slots are probably too high making it hard to stop the strings in low positions.
3) In addition you should see if the bridge can be lowered some (too low and you'll get strings rattling on the fingerboard).
4) Practice! You have to develop proper left hand technique (which is NOT bass guitar left hand technique), calluses, and muscles to have endurance.

Putting thin low tension strings on to try to compensate for lack of good LH technique and/or bad setup is the wrong path. For one thing, a lot of those strings are marketed based on the presumption that the DB will be heavily amplified (as in rockabilly) but that's anathema to 90+% of bluegrass playing, especially the jams and small performance that are the heart of this music. The whole concept of bluegrass is based around acoustic instruments.
 
I put at least 50 different sets of strings on old American Standards every year; often 3-4x that. It will get twice the volume and power for the E & A strings if you use Spirocore mediums. (I use a stark E!) Put real gut on the D G like Labellas & you have a powerhouse. Avoid all of the hipster plastic synthetic crap; you'll just be wasting time and money and pay a tone penalty......yes, I said it....;)

too bad labellas are discontinued
 
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If you can live without the 5% arco, then I'm using Innovation Rockabilly strings and play mostly bluegrass. I find them very good - they have a dark sound and are much easier on the hands than steel, loud too. However, arco is out - I tried bowing them once and it was like dragging fingernails over a blackboard.
 
I really dig the EP guts on my ply. Would be surprised if I ever go away from guts on that bass. Never played an AS, but can't imagine why they wouldn't sound/feel great.

Had Innovation Rockabillys on it before. Thought I liked them at the time, but there is no comparison. Also, as noted, they bow horribly.

My hybrid is a far better instrument - strung w/ EP weichs. But when I'm playing bluegrass/oldtime, I pull out my cheap ply w/ guts.

Sometimes I feel I'm alone in missing out on the Spiro love. I have an old Spiro E on my hybrid. It's OK, but I am not rushing to put it under the guts on the ply.
 
I admire Spiros because so many people really do love them, and I respect those people (as well as everyone else here in TB/DB)...

But I doubt I'll ever use Spiros on a double bass that I own and use regularly. I'm sold on the sound and feel of thick low tension strings, and at my age, I suspect that's a life-long condition. If I need more volume, I'll use a mic or a pickup. There is even a limit to volume with Spiros; at some point everyone has to decide if it's time to mic and/or amp.
 
Mike Magee in Slippery Rock, PA is the luthier in your neighborhood. He does great work.
https://www.michaelfmagee.com/

Just a quick update. @Sam Reese, I took my bass to Mike, and he was awesome. It turns out that my bass probably needs the fingerboard dressed/planed (or whatever the term is). I thought the reason I was getting a buzz on some notes was entirely because of my poor technique, but he showed me how wavy the fingerboard is and said that a properly setup bass shouldn't really buzz anywhere. There's not enough wood left for him to do it right, so at some point I'll probably have him replace it for me, if I can justify the cost.

However, Mike wasn't pushy about trying to get me to shell out a bunch of money on repairs or anything. He was super helpful and recommended several of the strings that were mentioned in this thread, along with raising the action quite a bit. He also just encouraged me to have fun playing — especially with something as unconventional as bluegrass. He studied at Juliard, and said that all the proper technique is wonderful to have, but a lot of those rules go out the window in bluegrass/roots music. I'm sure that last comment could trigger a whole lot of debate, which I'm not looking for in this thread. I just thought I'd report back a little bit.

Still deciding which strings to go with. I wish I could try out a few someplace without having to purchase them upfront.
 
Still deciding which strings to go with. I wish I could try out a few someplace without having to purchase them upfront.

Thanks for providing me a good laugh today! :D

I suspect most participants on these forums could be divided between folk who are seeking the ULTIMATE string, as opposed to the folk who are content that they've found something that is GOOD ENOUGH. You could likely distinguish the 2 by the size of their string drawers! :D
 
lol, @Ed S.

Mike (the luthier) and Mark Gollihur both suggested trying Evah Parazzis for their versatility, and given the production delays on the Innovation strings.

Does anyone play EP’s? I watched a guy on YouTube doing some nice pizz and light slapping on a set of those and they looked promising.

They weren’t opposed to Spirocores but seemed to think they might be a higher tension closer to what I already have.
 
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Just a quick update. @Sam Reese, I took my bass to Mike, and he was awesome. ... He also just encouraged me to have fun playing — especially with something as unconventional as bluegrass. He studied at Julliard, and said that all the proper technique is wonderful to have, but a lot of those rules go out the window in bluegrass/roots music.
I agree. Mike is awesome and concur regarding his steadfast commitment to having fun. He learned the hard way that there are always bassists working harder than you or are more gifted than you or are more lucky than you, so it truly boils down to fun. I have fun, make a few bucks along the way and have wonderful friends in the musical community. Just a question, did you ask Mike to plane and level it anyway? I probably would have. He would just bust your chops and tell you he's not responsible if it fails!
 
I've played EP's, they will work well for bluegrass. Get the light set. If you wanna save some money, go for the Zyex. They perform pretty much as well as EP's but not QUITE as easy to bow. I think Paul Kowert has used Zyex in the past at some point.
 
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lol, @Ed S.

Mike (the luthier) and Mark Gollihur both suggested trying Evah Parazzis for their versatility, and given the production delays on the Innovation strings.

Does anyone play EP’s? I watched a guy on YouTube doing some nice pizz and light slapping on a set of those and they looked promising.

They weren’t opposed to Spirocores but seemed to think they might be a higher tension closer to what I already have.
I use them and like them a lot.
 
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