Singular Audio Tubedrve Pedal

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Had this advertised to me on Instagram! Sounds stellar; they typically make studio rack gear so this intrigues me quite a bit!
 

Had this advertised to me on Instagram! Sounds stellar; they typically make studio rack gear so this intrigues me quite a bit!
Looks great. Too bad the bass demo doesn't show what happens when we change the "bias" knob, I'm intrigued.
 
Looks suspiciously like it takes design and inspiration from @Sushi Box FX especially when scoping the gut shot.

:eek: 😻
Almost all pedals take their inspiration from existing circuits.

There's a fine line between inspiration and plagiarism, but I see a bias control and a triode/pentode selector here that I don't see on the Sushi Box pedals.

With all due respect for Sushi Box of course, I think the degree of "inspiration" from Sushi Box pedal to this pedal is less important than between the Sushi Box Neptunium and the Noble preamp.
 
Almost all pedals take their inspiration from existing circuits.

There's a fine line between inspiration and plagiarism, but I see a bias control and a triode/pentode selector here that I don't see on the Sushi Box pedals.

With all due respect for Sushi Box of course, I think the degree of "inspiration" from Sushi Box pedal to this pedal is less important than between the Sushi Box Neptunium and the Noble preamp.
FWIW whenever @Sushi Box FX does a take on another maker's pedals he is honest about the source and pays all due respect. The SB designs that have evolved making a high voltage pedal powered by 9v SMPS is rather unique, there have been other "tube" pedals but with only one exception to my knowledge* they all work on lower voltage there fore resulting in little more than a glorified overdrive, not bad but not fully accurate in sound to my ear.

*I am referring to the BK Butler/Chandler Tube/Blue Boxes and other variations that were all AC powered and much larger there was also a rack mounted version.
Which pedal? Particle Accelerator?
This would be similar to the Space Heater with the added options for Bias and Tri/Pent operation making it more versatile. I'm not saying it is a rip but I would bet there is at least some cross over.
 
I think it looks fabulous. The layout looks slick, and from a circuit perspective I don't see much in common with my pedals. He uses a different topology SMPS (I'm curious what it is, I've been eying more efficient ones for a while), he uses a pentode, I've only ever used dual triodes (we don't talk about Westinghouse). I'm sure if you looked at a schematic you could find things in common with some of my designs, but the same could be said with any tube preamp, there's really only so many ways to make a tube preamp and none of them are unique enough to be patentable.

I think the things I build are neat, but I can't take credit for introducing the world to SMPS for high-voltage generation in tube pedals. One example off the top of my head is Blackstar, who had a series of (relatively unsuccessful) high-voltage tube pedals back before I even started building pedals. I like to think my one reasonable contribution (and there still may be someone else that did it previously) is right-angle mounting the tube inside a relatively small enclosure. Again not something considered patentable, but something that I'm glad to see more people reaching for. Tube pedals don't need to be bulky and inconvenient.

It seems like a really cool product and it seems like the company also have some 500-series modules with similar tube topology, which I will reiterate looks great. Sometimes I look at a circuit board layout and cringe, and other times I look at it and applaud the designer that clearly knows what they are doing, and this definitely falls into the latter category. There's plenty of room in the market for more tube pedal builders, and I wish them the best.
 
Looks suspiciously like it takes design and inspiration from @Sushi Box FX especially when scoping the gut shot.

:eek: 😻

Hi all, saw some traffic from this website so decided to pitch in.

I never saw the Sushi Box FX designs before so it's definitely not cloned or inspired by that.

The only thing it could be inspired by is the Thermionic Culture Vulture, a 19" device which adds glorious saturation. But the design and pedal adaptation is entirely my own work and cost me many, many hours ;)
 
I’m not saying it’s a rip off, I’m saying it LOOKS like the inside of a SushiBox. That’s all. No comment in the circuit. I hope to check one of these out someday…
 
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I think it looks fabulous. The layout looks slick, and from a circuit perspective I don't see much in common with my pedals. He uses a different topology SMPS (I'm curious what it is, I've been eying more efficient ones for a while), he uses a pentode, I've only ever used dual triodes (we don't talk about Westinghouse). I'm sure if you looked at a schematic you could find things in common with some of my designs, but the same could be said with any tube preamp, there's really only so many ways to make a tube preamp and none of them are unique enough to be patentable.

I think the things I build are neat, but I can't take credit for introducing the world to SMPS for high-voltage generation in tube pedals. One example off the top of my head is Blackstar, who had a series of (relatively unsuccessful) high-voltage tube pedals back before I even started building pedals. I like to think my one reasonable contribution (and there still may be someone else that did it previously) is right-angle mounting the tube inside a relatively small enclosure. Again not something considered patentable, but something that I'm glad to see more people reaching for. Tube pedals don't need to be bulky and inconvenient.

It seems like a really cool product and it seems like the company also have some 500-series modules with similar tube topology, which I will reiterate looks great. Sometimes I look at a circuit board layout and cringe, and other times I look at it and applaud the designer that clearly knows what they are doing, and this definitely falls into the latter category. There's plenty of room in the market for more tube pedal builders, and I wish them the best.
Thanks for the kind words and compliments. Means a lot from a fellow designer as I'm mostly self taught.

Your pedals look great too ! Looks very efficient use of space, especially since it's through hole.
 
Hi all, saw some traffic from this website so decided to pitch in.

I never saw the Sushi Box FX designs before so it's definitely not cloned or inspired by that.

The only thing it could be inspired by is the Thermionic Culture Vulture, a 19" device which adds glorious saturation. But the design and pedal adaptation is entirely my own work and cost me many, many hours ;)
Thank you for taking the time to reply, no disrespect was intended. I appreciate the bias, tri/pentode modes plus the flexibility and compactness.
 
I don't think SBFX at all when I see this. This has functions rarely seen on any tube pedal.

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these ideas make there way onto a SBFX..

Very interested in the bias, input differinal and pentode/triode operation. You also don't see 6AS6 tubes too often. Hopefully the range is good on bass, I see keys mentioned.
 
By the way everyone, there's a bass guitar demo...



P.s. the bias control basically controls the clipping character of the tube. To the left has more asymmetrical clipping and to the right more symmetrical. I've chosen a sweet spot for the majority of the demos since most people will be using it that way (most symmetrical clipping), but I do showcase it with drums in some other demos.
 
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By the way everyone, there's a bass guitar demo...



P.s. the bias control basically controls the clipping character of the tube. To the left has more asymmetrical clipping and to the right more symmetrical. I've chosen a sweet spot for the majority of the demos since most people will be using it that way (most symmetrical clipping), but I do showcase it with drums in some other demos.

Sounds great!
Just a suggestion, you may want to review the commercial user policy here on Talkbass and make sure you're following all the rules before you get slapped by the Mods. ;)
 
By the way everyone, there's a bass guitar demo...



P.s. the bias control basically controls the clipping character of the tube. To the left has more asymmetrical clipping and to the right more symmetrical. I've chosen a sweet spot for the majority of the demos since most people will be using it that way (most symmetrical clipping), but I do showcase it with drums in some other demos.

The bias control and the option to switch from triode to pentode modes reminds me of the Morph control in the Broughton Power Stage.

Count me in as curious enough to give it a try.

(On an unrelated note….I’ve not stuck my head in here for a while, and the new format….isn’t great….)
 
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