So I play in one of "those" bands...and its kind of bumming me out.

As long as the band keeps getting gigs, nothing will change. :(

Wonder if that's ever happened?

[Promoter]: Well guys, we could use you to fill in a weekend. How bout the 30th?

[Bass player]: Thanks, but no thanks. We know we suck... you know we suck... the audience may, or may not, know we suck.

[Promoter]: $600, for the weekend, with free nachos?

[Bass player]: Well, I have been working on a 3 hour solo piece... I'll let the other guys know you're booked.
 
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It's a nice sentiment, but it has no basis in reality. I've seen plenty of professionals make mistakes at shows--including cracked voices, forgotten lyrics, and wrong keys--and have read many interviews with famous musicians who acknowledge mistakes during performances. The thing is, in most cases, the audience doesn't even know they happen.

There is a HUGE difference between making a mistake in a performance and not being prepared. Even the best make mistakes. OP is not prepared.
 
Nail hit squarely on the head!


Finally, someone sees the reality of being in a bar band. It’s not about the band or the show, you are a live jukebox encouraging people to dance and drink. Nobody cares how you power through the hard parts or restart a song, they are concentrating on applying generous portions of social lubricant to a potential one night stand and offering to buy someone a drink after a dance is part if that ritual. The reason bar band pay is not what it used to be is due to changes in social norms, women are less prone to be doormats and men are less prone to be date rapists so the volume of patrons and the money they spend has dropped dramatically. If bars were still full on weeknights, bar bands would still be in demand on weeknights. There is also the hard fact that rock has come to where blues was forty years ago. It’s mostly old folks listening and old folks can’t go out on Wednesday and drink all night and still get to work the next morning. These days bars are hiring EDM jocks like my nephew. He shows up with a six foot table and two milk crates full of gear, sets up and taps into the house audio/video system and makes the same money as a bar band. He also works a lot of Wednesday and Thursday nights because the (young) people out during the week prefer EDM to live ear bleed rock. It’s not the quality of the bands killing bar band opportunities, it’s the same thing that killed the coach making trade, times have changed and live bar band music was one of the casualties of that change.
 
ouch. I think the only hope of salvaging this is to reduce the number of tunes dramatically, and delve into bluegrass/jazz/jam territory if the musicians can handle that. But it's not to be confused for sloppy playing, it would just be a way to halve or less the number of cues, intros/outros, lyrics, etc.
 
Sorry - I don't get it. For the primary band in which I play, we rehearse weekly, both because we enjoy the playing, putting together new songs and medleys, and preparing. Everyone comes to rehearsals prepared to play every song. If something isn't right, we don't play it. We worked hard on the Abbey Road medley - musically is is tight, but the harmony vocals are not up to the standards we have for ourselves - therefore, it's not in our setlist until those issues are ironed out.
 
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I was member of band for singer songwriter for many years. In big festival outdoor concert, huge event, she has a song she does solo, so we leave stage. We hear her tuning and tuning extremely... things going haywire for her.... nerves i guess... she forgot the alternative tuning for her own song she's performed for years. She asking me to come out and help... i'm like, i have no idea how you tune for that song. We're saying we're have to move on... skip the song.... she's losing it.... minutes past. Crowd is confused. Reviews were very kind after thankfully....

Anyone can have this happen once or twice.... crap happens. But making a habit if it isn't ok for sure.

Ironically we broke up shortly after... just kinda happened.
 
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Not if you think about it. If you practice just until you play something right once, you haven’t learned it that well. If you continue to practice it until you’ve played it right a lot of times, you know the material a lot better.

Well said. My band has a difficult time getting together as a group sometimes, but that's life. The guitar player and I (he probably has the hardest schedule to work around of any of us, truthfully) get together at least one night a week with a drum machine. It might not play the exact same pattern as the drummer would in a given song, but it will be close enough to learn the song roadmap. I'm good enough to adjust on the fly when we get with the drummer and singer, but that is an indespensable tool to get a start going. I'll run through songs hundreds of times.

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buldog5151bass said:
There is a HUGE difference between making a mistake in a performance and not being prepared. Even the best make mistakes. OP is not prepared.

I saw those newcomers 'The Rolling Stones' have a bit of a trainwreck during a song on the last tour. Pained looks on stage, but they pulled it back together without stopping. If they can have that issue with something they've been playing for 50 years, it can happen to any of us, even those of us still alive, unlike Keef.
 
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The BL in my most recent band does not like to rehearse and sometimes doesn't even provide a set list. There are times where she doesn't even want to rehearse new songs; just gives us the key and says "here's where I'm going so just hang on". We are generally professional enough to "hang on", but I really don't like that whole process. I think you never get really "tight" without sufficient practice and rehearsal.

The songs that we have played enough times are "tight" and I think the audience can tell the difference. At this point it probably doesn't matter for this band anymore, since the BL has told us that she is moving on to other projects. I have been in this band for about 5 years and in the span of two months we went from 3 and 4 jobs a month to essentially disbanding. There were several times when we were even booked for two jobs in the same day. So now it's time to move on and find a new project; hopefully one where folks want to rehearse.

Thump on,

One_Dude
Oh, hell no.
 
If you are in so many "side projects" that your main project is a band that can't play in public, that is a problem. Sounds like that band just needs to stop so everyone can do their other acts.
 
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