Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Heheh, I doubt it. Electrons are affected by gravity, but I doubt it does much over the distances involved in tubes. Any differences in sound are almost assuredly due to differences in the circuits, not tube orientation.

Myself, I've been eyeing Super Bassman 800s these days. I dearly love my all-tube Super Bassman 300, but I seriously doubt that I'm ever running it hard enough to drive the power tubes enough to justify lugging them around. I'm always running it on the drive channel with the gain and the mix near dimed. The master might get a little above 3 if everyone else is running unusually loud, most of the time it's at 2.5 and I kind of wonder if I should turn down (and we're a pretty loud band). If someone else who shares our practice space uses it (Hehehe, don't even ask, you'll only bug me. It's so very unlikely you'll really abuse it more than I do.) and swtiches to the clean channel, they'll usually turn it up to 4 or so. When I show up afterward and switch it to the drive channel and forget to turn down the master before I hit a note, the rest of the band acts like they should report me for attempted murder.

So, a class D power amp with the same preamp as my current Super Bassman that weighs only 20 or so pounds sounds pretty appealing at the moment. Does anyone know a similar tube pre/class D power combo platter that might fit the same bill but instead runs less than around $900 used? Sticking individual components in a rack would be an acceptable solution, but I don't own a rack. So, think about that in your price calculations. Oh, and I want two inputs, because it does double duty as an organ or synth amp (yeah, I could buy a a/b pedal, but I don't wannnnnnnnnna). One channel with two inputs is fine, I drive them as much as I drive my bass sound.

If not, I'm probably gonna grab one.
Sounds like the 100 watt version of the SB300 would be right in your sweet spot. You might be able to drive the power tubes with the lower power?
 
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Sounds like the 100 watt version of the SB300 would be right in your sweet spot. You might be able to drive the power tubes with the lower power?
Heheh, I've got a pair of power tubes that mine fails out pretty regularly. So, a lot of the time it's only running at 200W, anyway. I just don't want to lug the beast around all the time. Since I could probably get a similar sound with a tube pre/class D power setup, I'd kind of want to move a lighter amp.
 
Heheh, I've got a pair of power tubes that mine fails out pretty regularly. So, a lot of the time it's only running at 200W, anyway. I just don't want to lug the beast around all the time. Since I could probably get a similar sound with a tube pre/class D power setup, I'd kind of want to move a lighter amp.
Makes a lot of sense. If that is your option, I don't envy you, there are a bajillion choices to make.
 
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Makes a lot of sense. If that is your option, I don't envy you, there are a bajillion choices to make.
Heheh, yeah. That's the part of the problem that makes the Super Bassman 800 attractive. It has the preamp I already know I like when I drive it hard.

But dayum, there are so many options out there that might fit the bill and could possibly come out cheaper.
 
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Heheh, yeah. That's the part of the problem that makes the Super Bassman 800 attractive. It has the preamp I already know I like when I drive it hard.

But dayum, there are so many options out there that might fit the bill and could possibly come out cheaper.
Well, since you already have a benchmark for what you like, seems like it's a made choice, price notwithstanding. I'd love to offer a qualified opinion, but I'm just an unfrozen caveman bass player, and your world frightens and confuses me.
 
@kleinenenten that's brutal, glad to hear everyone's alright!

I heard the YBA 300 is more betterer than the 200 supposedly. Is it because the 300's have the tubes right side up?

Still curious about that little 100 watt tube head that came out last yearish. Still 1000% satisfied with my SS Traynors & Yorkvilles.

Same, though lately I've been totally suckered into the JPTR Titan. I've gone as far to convince myself I'd be okay with letting my BTA300 go to help fund it. Hell of a price tag for sure, but the attenuator seems legit worth it and man that thing seems to rip!

Heheh, I doubt it. Electrons are affected by gravity, but I doubt it does much over the distances involved in tubes. Any differences in sound are almost assuredly due to differences in the circuits, not tube orientation.

Myself, I've been eyeing Super Bassman 800s these days. I dearly love my all-tube Super Bassman 300, but I seriously doubt that I'm ever running it hard enough to drive the power tubes enough to justify lugging them around. I'm always running it on the drive channel with the gain and the mix near dimed. The master might get a little above 3 if everyone else is running unusually loud, most of the time it's at 2.5 and I kind of wonder if I should turn down (and we're a pretty loud band). If someone else who shares our practice space uses it (Hehehe, don't even ask, you'll only bug me. It's so very unlikely you'll really abuse it more than I do.) and swtiches to the clean channel, they'll usually turn it up to 4 or so. When I show up afterward and switch it to the drive channel and forget to turn down the master before I hit a note, the rest of the band acts like they should report me for attempted murder.

So, a class D power amp with the same preamp as my current Super Bassman that weighs only 20 or so pounds sounds pretty appealing at the moment. Does anyone know a similar tube pre/class D power combo platter that might fit the same bill but instead runs less than around $900 used? Sticking individual components in a rack would be an acceptable solution, but I don't own a rack. So, think about that in your price calculations. Oh, and I want two inputs, because it does double duty as an organ or synth amp (yeah, I could buy a a/b pedal, but I don't wannnnnnnnnna). One channel with two inputs is fine, I drive them as much as I drive my bass sound.

If not, I'm probably gonna grab one.

If it's any consolation, Matt Freeman is using one on tour now instead of the 300. Legit for the same reason, to not have to lug the sucker.

I feel ya. If it says anything I have the A/B led sled ashdown ABM and the almost tube BTA with the same pre-amp. Funny enough I actually like the immense bite and punch you get running the ss pre without the tube into the power amp of the BTA. Gets you the punch of the ss and the slammed and breakup when pushing the power tubes.

Either way though, if I only had one, I would have a tough time telling which it was in the mix or on stage. Can I feel and hear the slam cranking up in the house, sure. It'd be a tough call for sure, but I did gig for years on the ABM 100% content.
 
So, I stuck the YBA 300 on top of a pair of much malinged SVT410hlfs and I get it. I mean, I REALLY get it. That's the first time I've really felt tubes the way other people describe them. I love my Genzler 212s but this is something much, much more. And totally worth the schlep.

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Hell yeah!

It's weird, there's something about it. Not really sure exactly. It's a different oomph than say a lead sled punch, but just as if not more satisfying. I think having the sealed cabs does a bunch for a tube head, or really any for that matter. Different kinda in the gut lows. Deep, but not too deep, with just more punch. Less depth than a ported cab, but such a strong satisfying low end.
 
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They aren't sealed, so there's a Broughton RFE to rein them in. I've had one of them for decades. Once I got the Traynor, I picked up the second one locally super cheap. No one wants the big heavy boomy cabs anymore.

I'm not gonna lie... I've thought about getting two fridges but I've never been happy playing through one. But with this head and two of them...
 
They aren't sealed, so there's a Broughton RFE to rein them in. I've had one of them for decades. Once I got the Traynor, I picked up the second one locally super cheap. No one wants the big heavy boomy cabs anymore.

I'm not gonna lie... I've thought about getting two fridges but I've never been happy playing through one. But with this head and two of them...
I've never owned a fridge but always been happy playing thru one
 
There's something about the baked in sound of the cab I couldn't eq out the way I wanted to. It was always easier for me to tame the HLF, but it used to have an SVT115e sitting on it powered by an SWR 750X, then an SVT4, a GBE1200 and finally an MG800. This head is another animal and it may be worth revising the fridge.
 
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They aren't sealed, so there's a Broughton RFE to rein them in. I've had one of them for decades. Once I got the Traynor, I picked up the second one locally super cheap. No one wants the big heavy boomy cabs anymore.

I'm not gonna lie... I've thought about getting two fridges but I've never been happy playing through one. But with this head and two of them...

Yep, totally miss read that. Thought it said he not hlf. I dig their hlf range, at least the 610. But tend to prefer other cabs. The fridge was always solid for me. Same as @br1qbat, never owned one, but used a bunch of em. Hauling isn't too bad, but meh.
 
Been trying to slim down my pedal collection (like usual...) but am definitely enjoying some of my old pedals I haven't played in a while. Forgot just how much I love my GK Rails pedal for a bit of treble bite and grit - kind of like a SS version of my Pork Loin and ODB for "tube" grit. Same for the Trans-Boost. The GK Rails is going on the secondary board to replace the Pork Loin for now. And we'll see which of my "Rats" stays. Definitely the VT clones, but one of my Tremonds may get the axe over the Bass Mountain. Having numerous options for circuits is great and all, until they never get played and your previous "#1s" that you bought duplicates of are now collecting dust!
 
Been trying to slim down my pedal collection (like usual...) but am definitely enjoying some of my old pedals I haven't played in a while. Forgot just how much I love my GK Rails pedal for a bit of treble bite and grit - kind of like a SS version of my Pork Loin and ODB for "tube" grit. Same for the Trans-Boost. The GK Rails is going on the secondary board to replace the Pork Loin for now. And we'll see which of my "Rats" stays. Definitely the VT clones, but one of my Tremonds may get the axe over the Bass Mountain. Having numerous options for circuits is great and all, until they never get played and your previous "#1s" that you bought duplicates of are now collecting dust!

Yeah, I've also kinda realized that I can make most anything work well enough and the little finicky/minor variation bits I'll probably never notice in a mix.

Really reminded it with all the muffs I've been trying lately. Maybe it's because I dig just about all of em and could see myself using just about any of em.

I am thinning out the heard for sure though.
 
Yeah, I've also kinda realized that I can make most anything work well enough and the little finicky/minor variation bits I'll probably never notice in a mix.

Really reminded it with all the muffs I've been trying lately. Maybe it's because I dig just about all of em and could see myself using just about any of em.

I am thinning out the heard for sure though.
I'm in the same boat with Muffs, but that's because I also play guitar, so I need more Muff options. But that being said, most of my Muffs are the CMC variety, which are quite affordable, so I don't feel bad about hoarding those. And even now, there's really no need for me to get any others. It's usually the rarer stuff that I try not to hoard - if I'm not using it and it's quality, then I may as well pass it on. Hard for me to justify keeping one just to collect dust when I know others can enjoy it to its full potential.
 
I'm in the same boat with Muffs, but that's because I also play guitar, so I need more Muff options. But that being said, most of my Muffs are the CMC variety, which are quite affordable, so I don't feel bad about hoarding those. And even now, there's really no need for me to get any others. It's usually the rarer stuff that I try not to hoard - if I'm not using it and it's quality, then I may as well pass it on. Hard for me to justify keeping one just to collect dust when I know others can enjoy it to its full potential.

Same, infact I'd rather have something I don't mind beating up, and even more so that I can easily replace.

One day I'll probably own a crap load, probably still not rare or valuable, but unique for sure. Like I really dig all of Matt's mystery effects, but I have only kept like half. For the same reasons too. I am probably going to offload more of them, the star wars ones are the ones I'm having the hardest time letting go, though I know I'll keep 3 of them, the others, idk...