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Thanks. Will try tonight.
My problem is when I hit the strings with the thumb, half of the time it does a kind of muffled sound and doesn't do the slap sound at all.
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You should work on the release of the string right after you hit it. Your thumb should "bounce" on the string.
Or you can use rest stroke and go through the string without bouncing, but tone is different. You should learn both.
 
Thanks. Will try tonight.
My problem is when I hit the strings with the thumb, half of the time it does a kind of muffled sound and doesn't do the slap sound at all.
I have the same problem. Or I miss the string all together. I usually wind up hitting the fret board between the strings.
 
as mentioned earlier...its about control (i.e. bounce)

Now lets use the basic thumb movement to strike the string. This takes patience at first, go slowly. Everybody immediately starts banging on the strings real fast. Just strike the open A string ONCE, ...and <listen>. Youre trying to get a good tone and ring off the open string. There are a few approaches, I like to use this one first; Put the side of your thumb (at the knuckle) on the string around the end of the fretboard. Using the "doorknob twist", gently without leaving the string, bounce the string down and up like a trampoline. Get a feel for the "bounce". Once your comfortable, lift your thumb a little off the string and "bounce" off the string. I imagine this like bouncing off a trampoline. Practice to get the feel, then increase speed and/or distance of the bounce. Keeping in mind the rotating/twisting motion.
 
Yeah, I know all the ideas and techniques behind getting it right and I've been studying and trying for about 15 years to get it right but it just doesn't seem to happen. For me anyway. But I'm a stick to it kinda guy so I'll keep at it. What I did, to add more pressure on me, is to assign Forget Me Nots for the bands next song to perform. I'm not one to allow myself to be embarrassed so I have till Feb 9th to get it at least passable.
 
Yeah, I know all the ideas and techniques behind getting it right and I've been studying and trying for about 15 years to get it right but it just doesn't seem to happen. For me anyway. But I'm a stick to it kinda guy so I'll keep at it. What I did, to add more pressure on me, is to assign Forget Me Nots for the bands next song to perform. I'm not one to allow myself to be embarrassed so I have till Feb 9th to get it at least passable.

Been trying for 15 years myself. I’m thoroughly convinced you’re either born with the ability or not. It’s like playing drums. Either you got rhythm or not. I can play just about any style or technique in bass efficiency but slap will never be one.
 
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keep at it! Reach out to a teacher in the style you want to learn (even a one-off lesson is insightful).
Getting the feel for some of the techniques is challenging and time consuming. Trying to pick a song to play first then learn the technique can be a crap shoot if you pick a "hard song" with advanced techniques.

I have the same problem. Or I miss the string all together. I usually wind up hitting the fret board between the strings.

for a song like Forget me nots, thats what you want to do in theory: Strike the string and land on the FB just below the string you just hit. AND many of the roots are hammer-ons from the open string. (it adds that 'scooped' sound to the bass line). Good luck , great song!
 
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I have the same problem. Or I miss the string all together. I usually wind up hitting the fret board between the strings.
Ok, so here is a video of the problem I have with slap. As I mentioned earlier in the thread I just miss the string I'm aiming for altogether. Usually I either hit the fretboard between the strings or I hit one of the strings I'm muting. I think I'm doing everything I've learned from instructional videos right: I.E. Anchoring my arm so I'm not flailing around in space. Twisting my wrist in an "turning a door knob" way. Keeping my thumb fairly parallel with the strings. But I just can't seem to hit the string I want to hit in consistently. Try not to laugh too hard at my terribleness. I can use all the help I can get.


Good god I'm fat
 
hey man, great job! your misses are few, and well... it takes practice! :thumbsup:

Two things come to mind:
1) practice without the amp. Can you get a good solid slap tone just from the instrument alone? There are times your thumb isn't really attacking the string, but pushing it. This tends to sound hesitant. Record yourself without the amp, just the bass.

2) fundaments of aiming. Setup an exercise where you play a loop groove forcing yourself to cross strings. Octaves as quarter notes, use a drum loop, ||: D – F# – G – B – C – G# – A – C# :|| rinse and repeat. Speed up once youre comfortable, then as eight and 16th notes. *Watch your RH while doing the exercise. notice when/if a miss happens, take note and adjust.

Play On!
K
 
Ok, so here is a video of the problem I have with slap. As I mentioned earlier in the thread I just miss the string I'm aiming for altogether. Usually I either hit the fretboard between the strings or I hit one of the strings I'm muting. I think I'm doing everything I've learned from instructional videos right: I.E. Anchoring my arm so I'm not flailing around in space. Twisting my wrist in an "turning a door knob" way. Keeping my thumb fairly parallel with the strings. But I just can't seem to hit the string I want to hit in consistently. Try not to laugh too hard at my terribleness. I can use all the help I can get.


Good god I'm fat

I'll report back as soon as I watch the video, but I think nobody would lough at you for trying, at least here. You're just helping yourself getting some help from other people, showing your problem.
Try practicing in front of the TV, watch a stupid shark movie and practice without an amp without thinking too much.
 
hey man, great job! your misses are few, and well... it takes practice! :thumbsup:

Two things come to mind:
1) practice without the amp. Can you get a good solid slap tone just from the instrument alone? There are times your thumb isn't really attacking the string, but pushing it. This tends to sound hesitant. Record yourself without the amp, just the bass.

2) fundaments of aiming. Setup an exercise where you play a loop groove forcing yourself to cross strings. Octaves as quarter notes, use a drum loop, ||: D – F# – G – B – C – G# – A – C# :|| rinse and repeat. Speed up once youre comfortable, then as eight and 16th notes. *Watch your RH while doing the exercise. notice when/if a miss happens, take note and adjust.

Play On!
K
Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.
 
I'll report back as soon as I watch the video, but I think nobody would lough at you for trying, at least here. You're just helping yourself getting some help from other people, showing your problem.
Try practicing in front of the TV, watch a stupid shark movie and practice without an amp without thinking too much.
Looking forward to it
 
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Ok, so here is a video of the problem I have with slap. As I mentioned earlier in the thread I just miss the string I'm aiming for altogether. Usually I either hit the fretboard between the strings or I hit one of the strings I'm muting. I think I'm doing everything I've learned from instructional videos right: I.E. Anchoring my arm so I'm not flailing around in space. Twisting my wrist in an "turning a door knob" way. Keeping my thumb fairly parallel with the strings. But I just can't seem to hit the string I want to hit in consistently. Try not to laugh too hard at my terribleness. I can use all the help I can get.


Good god I'm fat

Ok, I watched the clip and:
1) You're playing is not terrible at all, you seem be on the right path
2) You seem to get a decent slap sound with D and G strings while struggling a little bit with E and A strings. In my experience, that's the opposite of what happens to most people. Keep practicing and pay attention to the release time of the lower strings. Try to "bounce" very quickly.
3) Your popping sound seems precise enough and well controlled. Again, that's the opposite of what most people seem to do.
4) I think you've never seen a really bad slap player. :p
Keep on trying, you're doing a good job.
 
Ok, I watched the clip and:
1) You're playing is not terrible at all, you seem be on the right path
2) You seem to get a decent slap sound with D and G strings while struggling a little bit with E and A strings. In my experience, that's the opposite of what happens to most people. Keep practicing and pay attention to the release time of the lower strings. Try to "bounce" very quickly.
3) Your popping sound seems precise enough and well controlled. Again, that's the opposite of what most people seem to do.
4) I think you've never seen a really bad slap player. :p
Keep on trying, you're doing a good job.
Thanks. I have always been a bit of a contrarian. :D
 
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Ok, so here is a video of the problem I have with slap. As I mentioned earlier in the thread I just miss the string I'm aiming for altogether. Usually I either hit the fretboard between the strings or I hit one of the strings I'm muting. I think I'm doing everything I've learned from instructional videos right: I.E. Anchoring my arm so I'm not flailing around in space. Twisting my wrist in an "turning a door knob" way. Keeping my thumb fairly parallel with the strings. But I just can't seem to hit the string I want to hit in consistently. Try not to laugh too hard at my terribleness. I can use all the help I can get.


Good god I'm fat

I was expecting something much worse. :D The main ingredients are all there. I've also experienced the same problem and for me it was/is just a matter of putting the time in. Something I would try to do is to dial things back and just focus on thumb accuracy. Take your left hand out of the equation for a bit and practice striking open strings. Start without any left hand muting. It will sound terrible what with all the ringing but it will force you to concentrate only on your right hand. Then introduce left hand muting (still with open strings) and then try fingering only with your index finger in first position (C, F, Bb, Eb, Ab). Also keep in mind that while you generally want to keep your right forearm in a fixed position, you might want to make some micro-adjustments when hitting the lowest or highest strings (for me it's the E and B strings). This is largely about muscle memory which means slowing things down until you're solid and then speeding up. You'll get there.
 
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I was expecting something much worse. :D The main ingredients are all there. I've also experienced the same problem and for me it was/is just a matter of putting the time in. Something I would try to do is to dial things back and just focus on thumb accuracy. Take your left hand out of the equation for a bit and practice striking open strings. Start without any left hand muting. It will sound terrible what with all the ringing but it will force you to concentrate only on your right hand. Then introduce left hand muting (still with open strings) and then try fingering only with your index finger in first position (C, F, Bb, Eb, Ab). Also keep in mind that while you generally want to keep your right forearm in a fixed position, you might want to make some micro-adjustments when hitting the lowest or highest strings (for me it's the E and B strings). This is largely about muscle memory which means slowing things down until you're solid and then speeding up. You'll get there.
Thanks. I'll keep those in mind as I'm practicing this week and for the near future. I have a lot of time on my hands right now as I'm a furloughed fed. So might as well learn to do something better.
 
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